Uhm, Valve was responsible for the C-D projects death. Since VAC has let us down, I think we have every right to complain. Valve isn't some charity giving away free software you realize, they are a company making money off us. So I think we have every right to complain, although complaints regardless of their legitimacy should be constructed and directed in as professional manner as possible... Honestly, because of VAC we all suffer. Thank GOD UA picked up C-D and we now again have an alternative.
I'll pat Valve on the back when they let an outside entity handle their anti-cheat as clearly they are not capable of doing an effective job for probably a variety of reasons (other projects?!). If the community was doing a fine job, why not just let it continue, or give them the code they need to make it better. james ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Schulteis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "HLDS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 12:49 AM Subject: [hlds_linux] Valve: THANK YOU; Valve Haters: WOW, Quit Your Bitching! > Like the subject says, QUIT YOUR BITCHING! You all remind me of that > Flash cartoon about the kid creating 'L337zor-Strike'. If you think you > can do better than Valve, by all means, GO AHEAD. But the fact is, you > can't (or at least, won't). I'm pretty damn sure that Valve is trying as > hard as they can! It's much easier to write code [Hacks] to defeat a > KNOWN set of tests [VAC], than to write code [VAC] to find an UNKNOWN > set of exploits [Hacks]. If you guys would sit down and actually try to > find HOW these cheats work, and submit THAT to the list instead of > random bitching, maybe something would actually get accomplished! The > fact is, nobody other than the CD developers are doing anything other > than random, idiotic, unhelpful complaining. And you know what... the CD > developers informed Valve that they had methods to HELP, and Valve > allowed them to get CD to work with their software. So unless you > f**king bitchers actually find something helpful, shut the F&*$ UP! We > all know there are cheaters out there. Duh! Try and help the situation, > don't add to it. And honestly, there have actually been very few on my > servers lately, which are very obvious to pick out and ban manually, as > always. Meanwhile, VAC is continuing to detect cheaters on my servers > every couple of days (including the 21st). So, in summary, constructive > criticism is the only type of post that is going to get anything done; > stop bitching at people for not doing things which you do not know how > to do either! Eric, let me appologize on behalf of the entire community, > and also say thank you, which they do not seem to know how to do. > > </rant> > -- > Brad Schulteis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Lots of campers on your server? Get some Camp Counselors: > admin_monster @ http://www.therealaod.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
