That has to be the saddest thing I've read in a long time. I hate to say this but I guess you're right. With the pig that's x.1.1.1 low end servers are going out the door. Still, it doesn't quite justify *why* the new server is such a pig. I understood the requirement jump when they added in the voice chat. At least there was something tangible there to justify the increased requirements. But 3.1.1.1 still doesn't have anything that seems to justify the extra CPU consumption. I think someone said it best. Which would someone prefer to run a server of? A recently released game like UT2003 or five year old Half-Life if the server requirements end up being the same? I really like Half-Life, but there's no point in justifying running a server if the requirements begin to match newer games, especially if Half-Life doesn't have anything that reflects those increased requirements.
Ah.. well... I hope Valve reads these messages and they're working hard on bringing the consumption back down again. > Message: 13 > Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 18:31:57 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: Rick Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [hlds_linux] Re: HLDS 3111c > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > >Message: 11 > >From: "Kerry Dorsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 07:59:42 -0500 > >Subject: [hlds_linux] Re: HLDS 3111c > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Some mods don't have the choices allotted to CS. DoD, for example, has no > >choice but to run x.1.1.1, otherwise, we'd lose the 10,000's of new retail > >players. There is no option to downgrade. We have been leveraged into a > >corner. > > > >CS hosts had better get prepared to face the same fate. As soon as they > >release 1.6, you too will be stuck w/ x1.1.1 (unless an engine update is > >released). It's all a conspiracy. Next, there will be abductions, cow > >mutilizations and finally anal probes. Oh, wait, I think the latter is > >already occurring... :p > > > >Kerry(Boogieman) > > > Your right, I am sorry I arrogantly assumed you meant CS. > > There is CS and everything else. That "everything else" sector is about > 10-20% of CS players at any given time if you look at gamespy live stats. > The next closest is DoD or TFC but they typically only have 5k players when > CS has about 60k. CS has coughed up the check for HL's success when it > comes to the multiplayer mods. They are not paying bills with cash > generated from HLDM players, that's for certain! > > Not to put the single player game down, it was a great game on it's own and > no doubt the most significant, initial sales factor. However, there is a > good portion of customers who bought the game just for a multiplayer mod, > even more that stayed interested and bought more copies and/or servers > because of the multiplayer mods. This is an old, old game by any standard, > the fact that it still has the huge following is simply amazing. > > I said this once a couple weeks ago and I think it sums the whole HL > multiplayer empire up in two lines... at least the last few years of it. > > 1. The reason there are so many HL servers is because they are cheap. > > 2. The reason they are cheap is because of the low cpu requirements. > > If Valve servers require the same resources as a (insert about any other > game here) server, your going to see that empire crumble. HL2 will do just > fine, all I am saying is that this big Valve influence on multiplayer > gaming will be over. As it is now, DoD is going out of the price range for > the average server owner and if you run CS or TFC under 3.1.1.1, prices are > going up or an already narrow profit margin is going down. > > I hate to say it but another era of gaming is drawing to a close. There was > Doom, Quake and then our beloved CS/TFC/DOD/ETC... I know that sounds > gloomy but a better game is around the corner somewhere and time will tell > who comes out on top for the next ride. The sad part is that inexpensive > gameservers the average player (kids) can afford are going to be history > along with the cottage industry that supported them. > > You right, enjoy 3.1.1.0.c while it works because even the established mods > will eventually require updating to the piggy version. > > Rick _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
