One possible, probably future, decision. Get VU out of the loop and deal
with this yourself so that you don't have anyone else telling you what you
have to do, and what you can and cannot do. Fire VU and do it your way :).

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick McClard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 4:27 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] OFF TOPIC: Half Life 2 DVD authentication ERROR


> That would be a decision that VUGames will make since they are
> responsible for the retail version of the product.
>
> The difference between the retail version of the game and the steam
> version that makes it necessary for the cd / dvd authentication is that
> the retail version is setup to work in offline mode indefinately.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter
> Holcroft
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 2:55 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] OFF TOPIC: Half Life 2 DVD authentication
> ERROR
>
> Could you get away with releasing an update for hl2.exe that removes the
> securom protection? That's what happened with Neverwinter Nights, they
> decided it was just too buggy so they removed it. Its pointless anyway
> seeing as you have to authenticate online.
>
> You say Vivendi forced you to add it to the CD/DVD. If this was a case
> of "were not publishing the game unless you add the protection", then
> you've done what they said and they've published it, but does that mean
> you can't remove it via a steam update? If its in a contract then you
> could just perhaps speak to the Lawyers about having it removed on the
> grounds that its causing too many problems.
>
> It seems silly to me that the people who use a pirated version of HL2
> can play it without swapping their HL2 DVD/CD into the drive everytime
> they want to play it. But the people who actually bought the game are
> forced into pointless hassle for no apparent reason.
>
> Copying the CD/DVD achieves nothing. You could actually just give the
> HL2 DVD away on a magazine and just make it so you have to purchase the
> game via steam, it would just save people the massive download. That
> would take the money away from Vivendi too. :)
>
> Pete.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick
> McClard
> Sent: 18 November 2004 18:20
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] OFF TOPIC: Half Life 2 DVD authentication
> ERROR
>
> Have you tried looking for any firmware updates for the drive? I have
> talked to a few customers with this problem and most have had updates
> available from the manufacturer.
>
> Also one of the other solution (that has not worked in all cases) is if
> you have multiple drives move the dvd drive you are playing on so it is
> the first drive letter. So if your cd is E: and dvd is F: swap them.
>
> We are aware of these issues and working on ways to correct them so
> please don't resort to cd cracks etc. You still have to play through
> Steam so we will know if a crack is used.
>
> Also I hope you all that are having problems have submitted an incident
> at the support site:
>
> http://steampowered.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/as
> k.php
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zak Haque
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:39 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] OFF TOPIC: Half Life 2 DVD authentication
> ERROR
>
> Thanks for all your responses, seems the only way to play is to purchase
> it again, via steam, or buy a dvd-rom drive to replace my dvd-rw drive,
> I have an sff pc which means only one space!! But before I do this im
> going to wait to see if some1 can make a working nocd patch.
>
> Zak
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric
> (Deacon)
> Sent: 18 November 2004 17:04
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] OFF TOPIC: Half Life 2 DVD authentication
> ERROR
>
> In a bold display of creativity, Frash wrote:
> > I think I can speak on behalf of all of us if I request to ask Vivendi
>
> > to reconsider this. It might even drive some people to do... well lets
>
> > say not wanted things. For instance making ISOs and emulating the DVD,
>
> > just because they dont like their CD player being occupied. The
> > difference is just too big with Steam subscribers that can click and
> play.
>
> VU is, like most retailing corporations of their size, gambling on the
> average consumer to be about as sharp as a sack of wet mush.  It's an
> intelligent gamble, as the odds are stacked greatly in their favor.  VU
> also cares nothing about customer loyalty, "the fans", etc.  They're
> gambling that the same dull-witted morons who loved HL will do whatever
> it takes to get HL2, including screw around with their DVD-ROM, no
> matter how unreasonable it may be.
>
> --
> Eric (the Deacon remix)
>
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