I did in fact read the whole thread my point is that, as a server admin, using a plugin that is restrained to only having the esc menu system available is quite simply a pain in the ass.
As a server admin I want an in game menu for my admin plugin, and I think that echoes the wants of a great number of other server Admins. It was specifically this market pressure from the server Admins that convinced mani and others to use the "hack" to implement them. If we're stuck with the esc menu's then I guess we're stuck with them but I don't think requesting that valve extend the menu api to allow for in game menu's and also requesting that they preferably give us advance warning of something in the code being deprecated or at the very least tell us when they've done it is out of line. I've said it a million times before but in my opinion the huge half-life mod community and the huge server admin community are what has made, and will continue to make, half-life as successful as it is. All I'm asking is some common courtesy from valve in response to those two groups wants. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Forsberg Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:35 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VALVe getting critism from 3 sides for blocking the "fancy menu hack" >>People keep claiming this "other" method is documented so where is said >>documentation? >>Note: I havent looked for it myself >> >> > >I haven't either but this is directly quoted from the hlcoders list: > >A "hack" is a funny thing to call a user message nicely documented in >cl_dll/menu.cpp. > > Well, if you got that far, why didn't you read Alfred's response: http://www.mail-archive.com/hlcoders%40list.valvesoftware.com/msg12119.h tml Mani doesn't seem all that fussed about it: > mani_use_amx_style_menu 0 > > This will allow you to use the 'official' Valve menu system. You will > be prompted to press 'Esc' to see the menu system. > > Sorry about this everyone but it was always a risk that Valve would > pull the plug on that style of menu system. i.e., oh well -- you no longer can use the old style menus... now you need to use the official ones. _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
