You, fortunately, weren't vulgar, you were only a bit aggressive. You were defending your opinion, and I don't find that inherently bad, but you still seemed to have an unfriendly undertone.
"Their game, their code, their choice". This is true, but that doesn't mean I can't ask why they have done so. "Maybe Alfred will answer your question and maybe he won't, and quite frankly "He" doesn't have to just because you say so." True again, but it's considered polite behaviour. As I said, if there isn't a reason for making this variable a cheat, then it should be reset back to non-cheat, because I heard people talking about performance improvements if it's set to 0. ~~ Ondra Dagok wrote: > Vulgarisms? When was I vulgar? The worst I said was "scum"...oh heavens > no, I said scum, I used a horrible word!!! > Like seriously, grow up and get over it. I presented my opinion of his > abuse of a cheat on his own "cheat protected server". > Don't like it? Too bad. That's what happens when you post in a public > forum. > > r_3dsky is listed as a cheat cvar by Valve, in this case they are god. > Their game, their code, their choice. > I don't recall why they chose to make it a cheat, and honestly I dont > care > since it has no effect on me. They made the change intentionally though, > because it was made a cheat after the release of CSS, probably due to > some > sort of abuse that cheaters/hackers discovered. > > Maybe Alfred will answer your question and maybe he won't, and quite > frankly > "He" doesn't have to just because you say so. > > Dagok > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ondřej Hošek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 12:49 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? > > >> Okay. >> >> I have looked through the message history of this mailing list. >> >> Now, I would like to ask a question. Anybody who starts flaming me will >> be classified as a lesser life form (and I will casually reply with an >> FU), since I don't need your "you are an idiot/cheater scum/...", I >> would like to have _real_ answers. Just because "God" classified >> r_doohickey as a cheat and somebody got impaled on it by making some >> fixes doesn't mean you have to start a Hitler-like attack against them >> if they come in and want to clarify under which circumstances it >> happened. Just because there is a line somewhere in the license >> agreement stating that "we don't unban whiners" doesn't mean you have to >> take your flamethrowers and send vulgarisms all over the place. I >> wouldn't personally classify Vapor as a whiner. >> >> Now, after my rant about the pointlessness of such flames, to my >> question: >> >> How The Hell Can Somebody Misuse A Change Of r_3dsky So That It Became >> Classified As A Cheat? >> >> Now I don't want things like this: >> >> (Quote Clayton Macleod): >> heh, doofus >> valve says it's a cheat, so eat it. >> >> As I said, if "God" can't supply a valid reason to this question, then >> "He" should make the variable a non-cheat. >> >> Honestly, "Yadda yadda Valve yadda yadda cheat yadda yadda FU." is a >> pretty useless answer. I can't say I like this, but I don't want to >> start a flame war, so in case somebody attacks me (for example the >> infamous C. Macleod), he really has to be of limited brains. If you >> don't know when to stop, you're not far from becoming a fanatic. >> >> Oh, and don't make Valve sound like they're a deity. They are only an >> assortment of humans, just like this mailing list. >> >> ~~ Ondra >> >> P.S. I know that using a program to freeze r_3dsky to 0 is a cheat. But >> it's Valve's job to go against the cheaters. You can support Valve, but >> the punishing part is to be left to the ones in charge. If you disagree >> with them, don't play their games. > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
