As server admins, we either find out the hard way when these exploits are
used on our servers, or we find out on lists like this. I would rather find
out here, be made aware of the problem and know that it is being addressed
rather than finding out on the forums at my site, or even worse, see the
exploit used on my servers while I am playing.

I understand your reasoning about posting exploits, but at the same time I
am glad repro steps were posted.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Bubrouski
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:36 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Nasty spawn bug

And I don't want to irresponsibly associate myself with Valve or
anyone else, but I'm not going to be apologetic when I'm absolutely
not sorry for saying something that *I* personally feel should be
said.

-sb

On 2/9/06, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't want to enter the argument about whether or not to post exploit
> details on this list, I merely request that you make sure to email me
> directly with exploits like this that you find so you can be sure they
> get my attention.
>
> - Alfred
>
> Mike Norton wrote:
> > I was going to sit by quietly on Alfred response about "NOISE" but
> > then Stan pipes up with that attack?
> >
> > Alright, enough is enough.
> >
> > 1.  As a serious server operator who does not seem to have a voice in
> > the bigger picture, I.E. requests are ignored or unanswered, I would
> > for one like to be told of possible exploits to keep an eye out and
> > promptly ban anyone who uses them.  Otherwise I am stuck with waiting
> > for Valve to fix the issue.  No offence Alfred but track record is
> > lacking here.  Sorry.
> >
> > 2.  If you think the exposure of a hack like this on this list is
> > going to increased the amount of use on it then I must wonder why you
> > are here?  Script kitties use underground lists and boards that most
> > of us, including myself, do not know about.
> >
> > 3.  Please do not lambaste another user for trying to point out
> > something that needs to be fixed.  That is BAD taste.
> >
> > Thanks for the time.
> >
> > Mike Norton
> > International Gamers Outreach
> > http://clanigo.com
> >
> > On 2/9/06, W0kk3L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> ok, i will...
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:00 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Nasty spawn bug
> >>
> >>
> >>> Please send bug reports like this directly to me in the future so I
> >>> can know to fix them (I don't want to loose them in the noise of
> >>> this mailing list).
> >>>
> >>> - Alfred
> >>>
> >>> W0kk3L wrote:
> >>>> I forgot to mention one thing. You have to select the old-style
> >>>> menues to get it to work.
> >>>> It doesn't work for the new menues.
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "W0kk3L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> To: <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:14 PM
> >>>> Subject: [hlds_linux] Nasty spawn bug
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Someone reported a nasty spawn bug on our servers. It's a bug
> >>>>> which is being exploited by Myg0t. It goes as following:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Join any server, click away the motd and open the console:
> >>>>> - type buyequip
> >>>>> - type menuselect 1 (to join the T's) (or menuselect 2 (to join
> >>>>> the CT's),
> >>>>> - then type menuselect 10.
> >>>>> Close console, click OK, then choose any skin.
> >>>>> Wait to spawn. Once you spawn, you have 1 second to buy a weapon
> >>>>> (any weapon) before you get teleported.
> >>>>> When you're teleported, you teleport to every place where are
> >>>>> cams. You can kill opponents, and you can die.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I believe this is an old bug, but maybe someone can resolve it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Greetz
> >>>>> -W0kk3L-
> >>>>>
> >>>>> PS. Maybe someone also can resolve that bug that you can boost
> >>>>> through roofs that have a slope.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Mike Norton
> > http://www.dev4gamers.com
> > http://www.gmpodcasting.net
> >
> > ManO-iGO
> >
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