I think VAC2 is pro-active, if i recall it correctly Alfred said VAC2 will ban anything what it finds in the memory running hooked into the hl engine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:34 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2
The cheaters will always be ahead of any anti-cheat system. The anti cheat system is a reactive system, NOT a proactive system. There will always be cheaters, it is up to valve to plug the holes, and it is up to the people who write the cheats to find new holes. All we can do is hope that Valve keeps allocating development resources to Vac2 to keep plugging the newest holes in the code. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of aprand Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:29 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2 Especially when your talking leagues, immediate response to cheats would be nice. If you are playing against a team/player that cheats, and that team wins, and 2 months later they get banned, well it doesn't help your team advance, or even worst, get back the prize money you may have lost due to the cheat! And, in actuality, I would like to have some confidence in my fellow players that they are, in fact, NOT cheating. Unfortunately, the only way to do this is with an immediate repose cheat detection program. I realize that AC lags behind cheats, you cant cure a disease that doesn't exist yet, but better coding of the engine and rapid response to new exploits will go along way. Of course, this means an accurate way of reporting cheats as well, not just blatant accusations. Demos are the best way, they also educate your admins on what cheats REALLY look like. I used to have a nice database of demos of players who had installed cheats then played and demoed so as to demonstrate what certain cheats actually looked like from 1st person and 3rd person, but alas that was many "new cheats" ago. So many feel, " I'm so damn good, if you kill me with 3 HS and spam me through the wall your cheating!" I'm not even that good and I get banned sometimes, by admins who claim vast experience and knowledge and "know" what a cheat looks like. Sorry, a bit off topic maybe, but we really need a dependable AC in order to both enjoy and compete. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Administracija" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2 I would love to see announcments :). Then you can make them public and add some lines in red like: "DIE CHEATERS!" :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Saint K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2 indd, VAC updates are always unannounced too..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Updating VAC2 How do you know it doesnt get updates? VAC uses delayed banning... there is no way to track who gets banned... Keep your mouth closed and stop assuming things. VAC2 works, and eventually, they will get banned. On 2/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As VAC2 is the number 1 anticheat in every league, I have to ask one question: Why isn't Valve updating it anymore? Thousands of cheaters are out there. Hundreds of newcomer clans are joining ladders and league, bashing oldschool clans like they have experience²... Actual it sucks playing in leagues with more than 50 teams in it (ESL f.e.). Last disussions showed, that one single cheat by one coder is in use by 29,000 (!!!) players! This is only one cheat and it is used by players of known teams and national players as well, as by really averged ones. Report/interview @ 4Players (german):
http://www.4players.de/cs.php?LAYOUT=dispbericht&world=cs&page=1&BERICHTID=4 270
(maybe someone has the time to translate) Why did Valve publish VAC²? What is it good for, when it doesn't gets daily updates? My clan will drop the ESL - the biggest league, with the most cheating players and teams... Please don't bother me with "you're not good enough" or "you must realize that others are better" - I KNOW others are better, my team and I, we know it, but we can't stand these times, where people which don't know every corner of maps like train, are aiming like young gods. They even don't know how to move, but they know where you are! ;-)))) At least I would PAY for licensed servers with a special updated VAC2 version! (VAC2 Premium maybe?! 0.20$ extra for every server slot) I would like to play one of the best games ever, but protected against useless and cheating individuals... Please Valve give a statement. Do you still want CS 1.6 to be "cheat-free" or is the time coming, where CS 1.6 is going down due to the fact, that anyone can cheat undetected while no VAC2 updates are made? _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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