Oh I totally agree with you, it's just that I don't think we should jump
on Alfred for staying stuff like that. It definitively should be fixed.
Quote: "I'm not trying to run it on a P3 =)"
I was just talking about recent issues, no worries there :P
"It must be really annoying to hear server admins with P3s that keep
whining and whining all day long every patch that comes out. I say just
give them some more time."
The problem is not only that it's broken, it's that they are not keeping
us up to spec. They find out about a bug from many messages on the list,
then disappear into the void and until it's fixed, we get gornischt. If
they told us, with every patch release (there's always a few weeks
between patches, unless something very bad happens), how far they are
with squashing these two bugs (which have been plaguing us since day 0),
we'd get far more patient as we're seeing progress, and even if they
say, "Sorry, we still can't nail what causes it", the responses would be
akin to "Bugger. Oh well." and not the "What the hell is taking you so
long?!" audible nowadays.
We can acknowledge that you're human, but if the only thing you can say
about a bug after, what, six releases? is "Stop quitting then", our
patience goes on vacation. Sure, it might simply be dadaist humor to
keep you from going insane -- wait, are you starting to burn out? --,
but if a basic and important engine command like "quit" does something
totally evil like free(0), what do you expect us to do? Weird
workarounds involving a telnet daemon and external SIGINTs?
~~ Ondra
On 21.11.07 6:33 Uhr, Guillaume Parent wrote:
Or VALVe could fix the bugs?
tbh I can understand why Alfred responds with useless things such as
this once in a while - It must be really annoying to hear server admins
with P3s that keep whining and whining all day long every patch that
comes out. I say just give them some more time.
You could kick all the players from the server with the message
"Shutting down", and then send SIGINT. You'd need to find a way to
flush the logs before sending SIGINT though.
On Nov 20, 2007 11:29 PM, Nye Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 08:19:52PM -0800, Alfred Reynolds wrote:
Stop quitting then.
Truly useless advice.
i do an rcon quit to restart the server cleanly (i am using a
while [ 1 ] inside a screen session.
since it segfaults, it does the stupid "delay blah blah" stuff.
if i edit the script to not do the delay, it just gets overwritten
on update.
in any case, its a sign of very bad programming; its astounding to me
this hasn't been fixed yet.
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