WRONG THE MAXRATE FOR HLDS IS 25.000 This communication and any accompanying document(s) are privileged and confidential, and are intended for the sole use of the addressee(s). If you have received this transmission in error, you are advised that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance upon it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return the message via email reply and immediately delete it from your system. -------Original Message------- From: Crazy Canucks Date: 5/21/2008 2:20:27 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] HL1 Client Problems As I understand it the maximum for HL is 20000, while for HL2 and Source mods, it is 25000. Drek Richard Eid wrote: > I wish I could find it on the forums somewhere, but at one point, someone > actually tested the various rate settings and found that the max was 20000
> Aside from AnAkIn's communication with Valve, whomever this was ran through > a series of tests and determined, not by e-mail or the like, by throughput > the rate was a maximum value of 20000. Maybe it was AnAkIn...whoever it was > provided a nice set of pics to show the differences in rate values. > > I'm not sure why you take that tone with him, though. He's only trying to > be helpful. He also has documentation stating that what he has posted here > are the correct values to use. If you can provide some evidence to the > contrary, I'd love to see it. I'd hate to be spreading misinformation by > advising people of a rate max of 20000. > > Also, your link is broken. > > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Read it for yourself straight from the steam site on how to setup a stand >> alone hlds. >> >> Server.cfg Settings >> Sv_maxrate # - Set the maximum rate of bytes per second which the server is >> allowed to transmit where # is at minimum: 1000 / at default: 10000 / at >> maximum 25000 <<<<<< >> Heres the link to that page. HTTPS://support.steampowered com/kb_article >> php?ref=6758-TCMF-2234<HTTPS://support.steampowered com/kb_articlephp?ref=6758-TCMF-2234> >> >> If someone at valve told you the sv_maxrate for a hlds is 20.000 either >> their wrong or the person who wrote the above tutorial should be fired. >> At a minium valve should update that page if I'm wrong. >> But I'm not. Have a good day Mr smarty pants. >> >> ELVIS HAS LEFT THE BLDG................. >> >> >> This communication and any accompanying document(s) are privileged and >> confidential, and are intended for the sole use of the addressee(s). If >> you >> have received this transmission in error, you are advised that any >> disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance >> upon it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in >> error, please return the message via email reply and immediately delete it >> from your system. >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: AnAkIn . >> Date: 05/20/08 11:11:03 >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] HL1 Client Problems >> >> Steam support site is wrong. >> >> I've asked a VALVe developer with a e-mail a while ago (he confirmed max is >> 20000), and even did some tests myself, and the MAX is 20000 and not 25000. >> >> cl_cmdrate can be set to your FPS value (100) with no problem. >> >> cl_updaterate, yes it depends of the server. Servers with a lot of people >> you might get choke with cl_updaterate 100. But if the server is good, it >> should be fine. >> >> >> 2008/5/20 Kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> >>> There is no reason to ever have you're cl_updaterate or cl_cmdrate set to >>> 100 or 101 for playing on the Internet. Whoever is telling you that >>> simply >>> does not know how to configure client/server side settings. >>> >>> For all Internet based half life one mods, All you need is the following >>> settings to run perfectly. >>> >>> Rate 25000 <<< this is the max (for Internet) and don't let anyone tell >>> you any differently. If you don't believe me then go to the steam >>> >> support >> >>> web site and see for yourself. >>> >>> Cl_updaterate 50 << best for client playing on the Internet. >>> >>> Cl_cmdrate 60 << best for client playing on the Internet. >>> >>> >>> I have been running servers for 4 years now and have tested these >>> >> settings >> >>> and all possible server side settings and have found them to be the best >>> >>> I run my servers at 566 sys_ticrate with sv_maxrate 25000, sv_minrate at >>> 10000, sv_maxupdaterate 50, sv_minupdaterate 40 >>> >>> My servers perform flawlessly with instant hit registration for all >>> clients. >>> >>> With no choke or loss for anyone. >>> >>> >>> YOU MUST REMEMBER THAT having you're cl_updaterate too high when the >>> >> server >> >>> wont allow it or you're rate wont allow it will cause choke and loss. >>> >>> >>> Please for the love of god let this question be answered and done with >>> >> for >> >>> all time. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This communication and any accompanying document(s) are privileged and >>> confidential, and are intended for the sole use of the addressee(s). If >>> you >>> have received this transmission in error, you are advised that any >>> disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in >>> >> reliance >> >>> upon it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication >>> >> in >> >>> error, please return the message via email reply and immediately delete >>> >> it >> >>> from your system. >>> -------Original Message------- >>> >>> From: AnAkIn . >>> Date: 05/20/08 08:33:23 >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] HL1 Client Problems >>> >>> Developer 1 DOESN'T makes you run slower. A lot of people think that, but >>> not really. >>> the MORE FPS you have the slower you run, and developer 1 unlock the 100 >>> FPS >>> limit, so it gives you more fps (if you have fps_max higher than 100) : >>> that's why you run slower. It has nothing to do with developer, but just >>> the >>> FPS. Between 100 and 90 FPS, 100 will makes you run slower than 90, and >>> >> it >> >>> might be noticeable. >>> 20,50,66,111 makes you shoot faster (like I said, the more FPS you have >>> >> the >> >>> slower you run, it has nothing to do with those values). >>> >>> >>> >>> 2008/5/20 Bento de Gier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>> >>>> No i haven't :) I don't know if the guns actually shoot slower but it >>>> >>> just >>> >>>> feels and looks slower than normal. >>>> >>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Richard Eid >>>> Verzonden: dinsdag 20 mei 2008 16:05 >>>> Aan: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>>> Onderwerp: Re: [hlds_linux] HL1 Client Problems >>>> >>>> Do you have developer mode turned on? If so, turn that off. That's >>>> >> been >> >>>> known to cause speed issues in the game. >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 6:48 AM, AnAkIn . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yes, rate is max 20000. >>>>> >>>>> cl_updaterate should be 100 if you use ex_interp 0.01 >>>>> >>>>> cl_cmdrate should be maximum 100 if you get 100 FPS, it doesn't send >>>>> >>> more >>> >>>>> command packets than FPS. >>>>> >>>>> cl_resend has nothing to do with netcode. >>>>> >>>>> cl_cmdbackup should stay at 2. >>>>> >>>>> cl_rate could be set to 20000 but I doubt it would make a noticeable >>>>> difference. >>>>> >>>>> I don't think you problem is related to netcode settings though...:S >>>>> >>>>> The guns shooting slower have probably to do with your FPS. >>>>> >>>>> There are some FPS values where you can shoot faster, run faster, >>>>> >> etc. >> >>>>> Example: >>>>> >>>>> Shoot faster (from memory, there are more values) : 20,50,66,111 >>>>> >>>>> Higher FPS makes you run slower afaik (no special value) >>>>> >>>>> Higher FPS makes you surf faster (surf_ maps) >>>>> >>>>> Higher FPS makes you jump slower >>>>> >>>>> 2008/5/20 Bento de Gier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I don't know if this is really a good place to post this but there >>>>>> >>> are >>> >>>> a >>>> >>>>>> lot >>>>>> more techies on here then on the Steam forums J >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been playing CS and CS:CZ for about 4 years now and never had >>>>>> >>>> really >>>> >>>>>> bad issues with bullet registration etc. but now I have. I have >>>>>> >>>> problems >>>> >>>>>> with the bullet reg in CS:CZ for ages now (after the big steam >>>>>> >>> friends >>> >>>>>> update I think). Let me give you a bit background info: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> CS 1.6 runs fine and on a decent (boosted?) server I can play like >>>>>> >> I >> >>>>>> normally would and I'm able to hit people very good. When I switch >>>>>> >>> over >>> >>>>> to >>>>> >>>>>> CS:CZ the whole game feels like a big sponge. A great percentage of >>>>>> >>> my >>> >>>>>> fired >>>>>> bullets seem not to register while other players kill me with only >>>>>> >> a >> >>>> few >>>> >>>>>> bullets as I can do on CS 1.6. Also my guns appear to shoot slower >>>>>> >>> than >>> >>>>>> normal. It's becoming a bloody nightmare as I play CZ >>>>>> >> competitively. >> >>> I >>> >>>>> have >>>>> >>>>>> exactly the same config settings on CZ as I have on CS. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have an Intel E6850 (Dualcore 2x 3Ghz) with 4 GB of ram and a >>>>>> >>> GeForce >>> >>>>>> 8600 >>>>>> GTS all plumbed into an Asus P5K-E motherboard. My PC is hooked up >>>>>> >> to >> >>> a >>> >>>>>> Linksys router which is connected to the Dutch DSL network. I have >>>>>> >>> 3072 >>> >>>>>> kbit >>>>>> downloadspeed and 700something kbit upload speed. (I do live ~3 >>>>>> >> km's >> >>>> from >>>> >>>>>> the connection point where all house's are interconnected.) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> My netcode settings are: >>>>>> >>>>>> Rate 20000 (Everything above 20k is useless so I have been told) >>>>>> >>>>>> Cl_updaterate 101 >>>>>> >>>>>> Cl_cmdrate 106 >>>>>> >>>>>> Ex_interp 0.01 (or 0.1 but that makes no difference to my problem) >>>>>> >>>>>> Cl_resend 2 (default) >>>>>> >>>>>> Cl_cmdbackup 2 (default) >>>>>> >>>>>> Cl_rate 9999 (default) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I normally get a constant 100 fps and sometimes a bit of choke <10. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm really lost here and don't really don't know what to do about >>>>>> >>> this >>> >>> >>>>> All >>>>> >>>>>> suggestions are welcome ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Met vriendelijke groet, >>>>>> >>>>>> With Kind Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bento de Gier >>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> >>> archives, >>> >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> >> archives, >> >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -Richard Eid >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
