Never seen problems using MOTD and "framesets". CSS2 was quite well supported.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Saint K." <sai...@specialattack.net> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New browser engine support for steam? It has everything to do with it. Me as server admin notice issues with the display of MOTD screens on our servers. Therefore this list is the appropriate place to post such a question. I have no client reason to request a browser engine switch. My question is formulated from a server op's point of view, and not a client point of view (and the forums are useless anyway if you want to discuss something without getting spammed the fk out of your topic or a random moderator removing the topic for whatever reason). -----Original Message----- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Björn Rohlén Sent: donderdag 4 juni 2009 15:22 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New browser engine support for steam? Why is this issue brought up on a linux-server mailinglist? It has NOTHING to do with this list or the people reading it! :\ This will only serve to getting less attention from developers and users regarding the important topics at hand -- use the forums and steam-client suggestion thread instead. -TheG On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:17 PM, <gamead...@127001.org> wrote: > Indeed; while originally Valve used IE for reliability (you knew it was > there), the reason for changing would also be reliability (you know it'll > render the same in all clients) > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf >> Of Saint K. >> Sent: 04 June 2009 13:12 >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New browser engine support for steam? >> >> I can understand the earlier choice of using IE as engine. >> Although now >> the market is changing, MS is being forced to de-attach IE >> from windows >> most likely; I feel its time for a change, especially now >> when we start >> to notice our users are having issues with the old IE6 engine. >> >> Cheers, >> -----Original Message----- >> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of >> gamead...@127001.org >> Sent: donderdag 4 juni 2009 14:01 >> To: crazy_canu...@rogers.com; 'Half-Life dedicated Linux >> server mailing >> list' >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New browser engine support for steam? >> >> No, it's to do with the fact that on a windows box, it's the one >> embeddable >> browser you can guarentee will be installed. Nothing to do with >> brainwashed >> or bribed programmers. >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> > [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf >> > Of Crazy Canucks >> > Sent: 04 June 2009 12:37 >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >> > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New browser engine support for steam? >> > >> > I'll second and third this. It seems that most game >> > developers make use >> > of the IE browser engine. Might have something to do with >> the way M$ >> > has bought its way into our educational systems... >> > >> > Craig H wrote: >> > > It would certainly be nice. >> > > >> > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Saint K. >> > <sai...@specialattack.net> wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > >> I have a request. Most likely a bit radical for your >> > design, but very >> > >> much wanted. >> > >> >> > >> The problem is as following. Steam uses IE as engine to >> > display stuff in >> > >> the store, the motd etc etc. >> > >> As you know, IE is used less and less, and people now a >> > days chose not >> > >> to install or update IE at all because their using an alternative >> > >> browser. (Our webstats show that IE is by far no longer >> > the most used >> > >> browser). >> > >> >> > >> Now to come to our problem, because we don't install or update IE >> > >> anymore, we get faced with all sorts of render problems >> > caused by the >> > >> old IE engine (IE6). Widespread webmasters are fully dropping IE6 >> > >> supports because their tired of having to implement >> > countless hacks to >> > >> make it browser compatible. >> > >> >> > >> Could steam please consider implementing or supporting >> alternative >> > >> browser engines? >> > >> >> > >> Cheers, >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >> > list archives, >> > >> please visit: >> > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >> >> > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >> > list archives, please visit: >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > archives, please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.52/2152 - Release Date: >> 06/03/09 18:00:00 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux No virus found in this incoming message. 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