I done a full reset, and went over all the options one by one, and researching the ones I didn't knew 100% sure what they were doing.
I am assuming I ended up with a different set of settings because of the massive improvements. Saint K. ________________________________________ From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of gamead...@127001.org [gamead...@127001.org] Sent: 27 July 2011 01:48 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 Wow! Did you change any settings, or just reset to default then put them back how they were? > -----Original Message----- > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux- > boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K. > Sent: 26 July 2011 12:58 > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 > > We ran around 90-100% per core with 40-ish FPS. > > Players found that reasonably acceptable, so I'm guessing no one is > going to complain now. > > Saint K. > ________________________________________ > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux- > boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Andres Pozos > [javato...@yahoo.es] > Sent: 26 July 2011 13:59 > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 > > More than 80% cpu usage = lag spikes > > Everyone thanks a lot for your feedback regarding this issue. > > > > I went into the datacenter today and had another good look at the > BIOS settings. In the end I did a full BIOS reset and re-programmed all > the options. > > > > Servers now run at a rock solid 250FPS at around 80-90% CPU load per > 24max server per core (acceptable). > > > > Saint K. > > ________________________________________ > > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux- > boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Svensk Ljud& Ljus > Produktion [i...@teaterljud.se] > > Sent: 25 July 2011 17:00 > > To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 > > > > To get a true picture on the cpu load you have to monitor both the > > machines cpu-usage by core, and the srcds instances usage of cpu. > > This can be monitored by munin. > > Offcource it can also monitor fps, no.off players, uptime and the > > network traffic on the nic by port. > > But dont forget to monitor the memory usage on the machine. > > Its a easy way to find errors. > > > > Peter > > Sweden > > > > > > > > Eric Riemers skrev 2011-07-25 15:04: > >> I only have issues on the box with the 32 slots server, and since > tf2 is > >> build for 24 i dont think there will be any performance increases in > this > >> area. The 24 slots sit around 60/70% and i've got no complaints from > there > >> (except for the few that always complain) > >> > >> Also if you have hlxce running or similar you can usually see your > >> serverside fps too, not that this matters that much but if you see > drops > >> below 66 it could be cpu, at least a reference point to look at if > people > >> complain about lag. > >> > >> Still running an older distro of debian on that box though, perhaps > a > >> upgrade would do some good i presume too. > >> > >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:05:10 +0200, Saint > K.<sai...@specialattack.net> > >> wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> My concern is not really to have more servers on there (although it > be > >> nice > >>> if possible), but I'd like to get at least 66+fps stable per server > per > >>> core, and having some load left to have replay etc enabled, as we > had to > >>> kill that as well to get things running on the edge of normal. > >>> > >>> I've also tried assigning it per core, but never found clear > bennifits to > >>> do so. The keeping one core free is just the thought process, > leaves some > >>> room for other processes to peak (if required). > >>> > >>> Saint K. > >>> ________________________________________ > >>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >>> [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of > >>> gamead...@127001.org [gamead...@127001.org] > >>> Sent: 25 July 2011 13:56 > >>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 > >>> > >>> Regardless of CPU usage you're going to struggle running more > servers > >> than > >>> that. > >>> > >>> The thing is, it's not that the servers use a lot of CPU*, it's > just that > >>> when they need it, they need it _NOW_, or else they miss their > "window" > >> and > >>> the framerate drops. The more things running per core, the higher > the > >>> chance that something else will stop a server getting its slice > when it > >>> needs it. > >>> > >>> *actually, they _DO_, but the point would stand even if they didn't > >>> > >>> This is why I find load average useful; it can point out > overloading (if > >> LA > >>>> number of threads your server has) even when the CPU load isn't > showing > >>> 100% > >>> > >>> Re: assigning servers to cores - this is going back about 3 years, > but I > >>> noticed that gameservers liked to jump cores about every 30 seconds > or > >>> so... > >>> but if I pinned them to a core, they'd lag for a split-second > around > >> every > >>> 30 seconds or so instead. No idea if that was the OS or the > server, and > >>> we've not tested again since, but we've had little issue leaving > them to > >>> roam free. > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > [mailto:hlds_linux- > >>>> boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K. > >>>> Sent: 25 July 2011 12:22 > >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 > >>>> > >>>> I could live with that, at least knowing a reason why my 3000,- > euro > >>>> hardware can only sustain 7-ish 24 slots TF2 servers. > >>>> > >>>> Saint K. > >>>> ________________________________________ > >>>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux- > >>>> boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of James Botting > >>>> [bottswan...@googlemail.com] > >>>> Sent: 25 July 2011 13:18 > >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 > >>>> > >>>> Everytime a new weapon goes 'pew pew' the laser destroys a section > of > >>>> your > >>>> CPU. > >>>> It's a new feature. > >>>> > >>>> On 25/07/2011 12:14, "Andres Pozos"<javato...@yahoo.es> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Its not a bug its a "feature", jk. Orangebox take teh 100% cpu > usage > >>>> in > >>>>> a core with more than 25 slots, i tested it on many linux > distros, > >>>> many > >>>>> kernel configurations and many cpus. So welcome to the club. > >>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks for the reply. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The servers are build according to Tyans best practise, so > >>>> everything > >>>>>> is inserted in the correct slots. I've recently also updated the > BIOS > >>>>>> versions to be sure. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> One thing I notice, at the memory settings is a "snooping" > option - > >>>> If > >>>>>> this is disabled, the overall load is slightly lower (as it is > now). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'd generally wouldn't blame the hardware either, however, > seeing I > >>>>>> can't find anything software wise, it's the logical next thing > to > >>>> look > >>>>>> at. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Any more tips are welcome! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Saint K. > >>>>>> ________________________________________ > >>>>>> From: Jesse Molina [je...@opendreams.net] > >>>>>> Sent: 25 July 2011 12:36 > >>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > >>>>>> Cc: Saint K. > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Looks fine, don't mess with it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> generic-receive-offload would be good if you were doing 10G > >>>> networking, > >>>>>> but otherwise forget about it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Make sure that your RAM is in the right slots as recommended by > >>>> Tyan. > >>>>>> That can slow things down sometimes but I would not expect that > to > >>>> cause > >>>>>> such significant problems. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have no clue. Grab an old cruddy desktop, set it up on your > home > >>>>>> network, do a quickplay qualified server, and then watch how it > >>>> runs. > >>>>>> Use the same OS and versions you are using on your server and > then > >>>> start > >>>>>> twiddling. You only need about a 2Mbps upstream rate for a 24- > >>>> player > >>>>>> server. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I would blame software way before I started blaming hardware. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Actually, I'd blame something you did unknowingly, first, but > just > >>>>>> because I'm a BOFH. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> People like to throw switches in the desperate hope that one of > them > >>>> was > >>>>>> put there by system developers specifically just to slow things > >>>> down, > >>>>>> like a turbo switch on an old 486DX. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> "Surely, my sheer desire to make things go faster and by > randomly > >>>>>> throwing every bios setting, recompiling my kernel with obscure > >>>> realtime > >>>>>> patches I found, enabling weird sysctrl parameters, and buying a > >>>> Bigfoot > >>>>>> gaming NIC will make things go faster!" > >>>>>> > >>>>>> And that's why we have fps_max 1000 and 100PPS update/cmd rates > on > >>>>>> servers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I really have no idea what I'm talking about. I've only been > >>>> messing > >>>>>> with srcds servers for the last nine months or so. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Then again... Seagate did ship me all of those SATA 300 drives > with > >>>> the > >>>>>> 150-limiting jumpers on by default. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Saint K. wrote: > >>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I am getting these values returned, not entirely sure what I am > >>>>>>> looking at; > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> mrblonde:~# ethtool -k eth0 > >>>>>>> Offload parameters for eth0: > >>>>>>> rx-checksumming: on > >>>>>>> tx-checksumming: on > >>>>>>> scatter-gather: on > >>>>>>> tcp-segmentation-offload: off > >>>>>>> udp-fragmentation-offload: off > >>>>>>> generic-segmentation-offload: on > >>>>>>> generic-receive-offload: off > >>>>>>> large-receive-offload: off > >>>>>>> ntuple-filters: off > >>>>>>> receive-hashing: off > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Does this appear to be good? I've checked the chipset specs and > it > >>>>>>> supports checksum offloading. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Saint K. > >>>>>>> ________________________________________ > >>>>>>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >>>>>>> [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Andrew > >>>>>>> Armitage [and...@thirdlife.org] > >>>>>>> Sent: 25 July 2011 10:36 > >>>>>>> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I wouldn't expect problems with. But I happily admit to being > no > >>>>>>> expert. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Try ethtool -k<interface> and see what's what? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> A > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 25/07/2011 08:42, Saint K. wrote: > >>>>>>>> The servers are build on Tyan Tempest i5400 motherboards, > based on > >>>>>>>> the Intel 5400B chipset platform, the Gbit nic's used on this > >>>> board > >>>>>>>> are Intel 82563EB chips. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I've never really figured the load could be related to the > >>>> networking > >>>>>>>> chip as our throughput tests never really show any issues when > >>>> tested > >>>>>>>> (with all sorts of packet sizes, tcp/udp) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Saint K. ________________________________________ From: > >>>>>>>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >>>>>>>> [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of > Andrew > >>>>>>>> Armitage [and...@thirdlife.org] Sent: 25 July 2011 09:36 To: > >>>>>>>> hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] > cpu on > >>>> i7 > >>>>>>>> 920 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Maybe the issue is the network hardware? HLDS is very network > >>>>>>>> intensive. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I believe that some cards support checksum offloading and some > >>>>>>>> don't. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> A > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 25/07/2011 07:28, Saint K. wrote: > >>>>>>>>> What I am still not getting is that our Xeon E5420's are > doing > >>>>>>>>> like 70-80% load on a single core for 24 players, and our > Xeon > >>>>>>>>> E5410's 90%+, where you say your older 4600+ does 70%. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Tried all sorts of different kernels out there. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Is there perhaps certain BIOS settings which could benefit > when > >>>>>>>>> running gameservers on them? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Ours surely should perform much better then that? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Saint K. ________________________________________ From: > >>>>>>>>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >>>>>>>>> [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of > Jesse > >>>>>>>>> Molina [je...@opendreams.net] Sent: 25 July 2011 05:15 To: > >>>>>>>>> Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: > >>>>>>>>> [hlds_linux] cpu on i7 920 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I have a AMD Phenom x6 1055T doing multiple servers at the > same > >>>>>>>>> time. TF2 causes the active core to go to 100% for about two > >>>>>>>>> seconds during map changes, but otherwise I've never seen it > go > >>>>>>>>> that high for extended periods of time. Average during full > >>>>>>>>> 24-player usage is about 40%. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I also have an older AMD Athlon64 x2 4600+ that runs a single > >>>>>>>>> 24-player TF2 quickplay server. It averages 70% usage when > full > >>>>>>>>> and gameplay is great. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Both of these are desktop class boards with DDR2 PC800M RAM. > >>>>>>>>> Linux 2.6.39. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Try watching your CPU usage at (relatively) high resolution > with > >>>>>>>>> something like "htop -d 1" > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> No clue why you are maxing out like that. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Eric Riemers wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> All, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I run a 32 slots server on a i7 920 @ 2.67ghz, but i can see > >>>>>>>>>> with top and such that its potentially maxing out at 100% at > >>>>>>>>>> times since it only uses one core. Is it really now doing so > >>>> much > >>>>>>>>>> cpu that even a i7 core isn't enough? Didn't have much > >>>> complaints > >>>>>>>>>> before the pew pew. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 24 slots on the same server do around 60% when full. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Eric > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ To > unsubscribe, > >>>>>>>>>> edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please > >>>>>>>>>> visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>>>>> -- # Jesse Molina # Mail = je...@opendreams.net # Page = > >>>>>>>>> page-je...@opendreams.net # Cell = 1.602.323.7608 # Web = > >>>>>>>>> http://www.opendreams.net/jesse/ > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ To > unsubscribe, > >>>>>>>>> edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > >>>>>>>>> visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ To > unsubscribe, > >>>>>>>>> edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > >>>>>>>>> visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ To > unsubscribe, > >>>> edit > >>>>>>>> your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ To > unsubscribe, > >>>> edit > >>>>>>>> your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>> archives, > >>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>> archives, > >>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> # 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