So can people generate f2p accounts and bomb a competitor's server?

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:14 AM, doc <drga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The reputation Valve keeps on the backend was explained by them in
> some blog post but in short whenever someone joins your server, you
> lose points. Then for every minute they are there you gain 1 point,
> and after 15 minutes the player has "paid" for the points loss they
> created.
>
> This is to stop a server from advertising "SUPER FUN", and then you
> get in and realize it's all bots and idlers and it's not fun, so you
> leave ASAP.
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Michael Johansen <michs...@live.no> wrote:
>>
>> So, if I have a lot of regulars on my servers, and they play for a long 
>> time, my servers rep. will stay high? And what is "good" in terms of points? 
>> I'm currently at vacation and i can't do anything with the servers sadly so 
>> I haven't got to tried the plugin yet.
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:22:30 -0400
>>> From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com
>>> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update
>>>
>>> If you're talking about the "Standing" message you get during startup,
>>> that's just your quick play matchmaking score - Fletcher said
>>> yesterday that this is not tied to the "reputation" that blacklists
>>> shitty servers. One of mine got a "Bad" standing yesterday because it
>>> was crashing too, but it's back into "Good". Don't worry too much
>>> about it.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Michelle Sleeper <mslee...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> > If you're talking about the "Standing" message you get during startup,
>>> > that's just your quick play matchmaking score - Fletcher said
>>> > yesterday that this is not tied to the "reputation" that blacklists
>>> > shitty servers. One of mine got a "Bad" standing yesterday because it
>>> > was crashing too, but it's back into "Good". Don't worry too much
>>> > about it.
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Ronny Schedel <i...@ronny-schedel.de> 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >> How do you check the reputation?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: AnAkIn .
>>> >> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 7:12 PM
>>> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>>> >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update
>>> >>
>>> >> Great, 2 of my servers on the same IP just got banned from the master 
>>> >> server
>>> >> due to one of them reputation being too low. One got 98 and the other one
>>> >> -763. Not surprising considering the server crashes.
>>> >>
>>> >> 2011/7/29 Ross Bemrose <rbemr...@vgmusic.com>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Maybe I'm just lucky... I haven't seen that many server crashes lately. 
>>> >>>  I
>>> >>> had none yesterday when I played for roughly 3 hours, so I could monitor
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> situation.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> None of my users have reported crashes recently either.  Makes me wonder
>>> >>> if
>>> >>> one of my extensions is protecting me from unexplained crashes.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Servers 1 & 2:
>>> >>> OS: Ubuntu 10.04.3 64-bit
>>> >>> Server mods: MM:Source 1.8.7, SourceMod 1.3.8
>>> >>> SM Extensions (excluding defaults): Socket, Server Secure - Files Only,
>>> >>> CBaseServer tools, SDK Hooks
>>> >>> SM Plugins (excluding defaults): Superlogs: TF2, HLStatsX:CE, Name 
>>> >>> Change
>>> >>> Punisher, Custom Votes, Mapchooser Extended, Mapchooser Extended Sounds,
>>> >>> TF2
>>> >>> FF on during waiting for players, Spray Tracer, Deadchat, Immunity 
>>> >>> Reserve
>>> >>> Slots, SourceBans, Rock the Vote (SM), Nominations (SM), Kigen's
>>> >>> Anti-Cheat,
>>> >>> Maplister
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Servers 3 & 4:
>>> >>> OS: Debian Squeeze 64-bit
>>> >>> Server mods: MM:Source 1.8.7, SourceMod 1.3.8
>>> >>> SM Extensions (excluding defaults): Socket, Server Secure - Files Only,
>>> >>> CBaseServer tools, SDK Hooks
>>> >>> SM Plugins (excluding defaults): Superlogs: TF2, HLStatsX:CE, Name 
>>> >>> Change
>>> >>> Punisher, Custom Votes, Mapchooser Extended, Mapchooser Extended Sounds,
>>> >>> TF2
>>> >>> FF on during waiting for players, Spray Tracer, Deadchat, Immunity 
>>> >>> Reserve
>>> >>> Slots, SourceBans, Rock the Vote (SM), Nominations (SM), Kigen's
>>> >>> Anti-Cheat
>>> >>>
>>> >>> None of the weapons are disabled on my servers.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Info <infoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > My server has the latest sm/mm, no replays, disabled weaps (lasers,
>>> >>> > mantreads).  I can reliably reproduce crashes on map change (it 
>>> >>> > happens
>>> >>> > 80-90% of the time).  Hopefully Valve has something in mind that will 
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > get
>>> >>> > released today--another weekend with broken code is not promising.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 08:25, Saint K. <sai...@specialattack.net>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > > We're had 3 crashes which created mini dumps today - I've sent them 
>>> >>> > > >
>>> >>> > > > off
>>> >>> > to
>>> >>> > > VALVe.
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > Saint K.
>>> >>> > > ________________________________________
>>> >>> > > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [
>>> >>> > > hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkIn . [
>>> >>> > > anakin...@gmail.com]
>>> >>> > > Sent: 29 July 2011 17:11
>>> >>> > > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>>> >>> > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > I didn't have any more crashes yet, but I just had a server hang. No
>>> >>> > crash
>>> >>> > > dumps.
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > 2011/7/29 srcds admin <hl_l...@kikazz.com>
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > > Taking a look at my server logs... this looks very interesting.. 
>>> >>> > > > 800
>>> >>> > > > invalid physics calls in a row.
>>> >>> > > >
>>> >>> > > > http://pastebin.com/HTjESY2G
>>> >>> > > >
>>> >>> > > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:47:36 -0600, srcds admin 
>>> >>> > > > <hl_l...@kikazz.com>
>>> >>> > > > wrote:
>>> >>> > > > > I had a crash last night, but don't have any details.  This 
>>> >>> > > > > wasn't
>>> >>> on
>>> >>> > > > map
>>> >>> > > > > change as I run a 24/7 single map server. Seems alot more stable
>>> >>> than
>>> >>> > > it
>>> >>> > > > > was, but there is still something causing crashes. I have the 
>>> >>> > > > > new
>>> >>> > weps
>>> >>> > > > > enabled.
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:59:36 -0400, Rodrigo Peña <
>>> >>> > > yo....@korrupzion.com>
>>> >>> > > > > wrote:
>>> >>> > > > >> I waited a long time to say this since I could be wrong
>>> >>> > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > >> No single crashes here..
>>> >>> > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > >> My last crash was at vphysics update (before cow mangler).
>>> >>> > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > >> My environment:
>>> >>> > > > >> -Intel core i7 930(or 920 don't remember at this time) @ 3.2ghz
>>> >>> > > > >> -8gb ram
>>> >>> > > > >> -Debian Lenny stock kernel
>>> >>> > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > >> Server:
>>> >>> > > > >> -Replay enabled (local filehost)
>>> >>> > > > >> -Sourcemod
>>> >>> > > > >> -SourceOP
>>> >>> > > > >> -28 slot server
>>> >>> > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > >> Hosted in South America.
>>> >>> > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > >> The only big problem I've had is a international bandwidth 
>>> >>> > > > >> outage
>>> >>> in
>>> >>> > > > the
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > >> datacenter that caused all valve servers to freeze at startup
>>> >>> > because
>>> >>> > > a
>>> >>> > > >
>>> >>> > > > >> connection to a valve master server made synchronously. To
>>> >>>  address
>>> >>> > > > this
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > >> issue I had to block all valve IPs with route command (using
>>> >>> strings
>>> >>> > > to
>>> >>> > > >
>>> >>> > > > >> find them in libraries).
>>> >>> > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > >> It would be great if valve could fix by making initial 
>>> >>> > > > >> connection
>>> >>> to
>>> >>> > > > >> master server asynchronously, like the connection to item 
>>> >>> > > > >> server
>>> >>> > (not
>>> >>> > > > >> sure) so it prevents the server hang if there's a network 
>>> >>> > > > >> outage
>>> >>> or
>>> >>> > a
>>> >>> > > > >> inoperating valve master server (this happened years ago)
>>> >>> > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > >> -Rodrigo
>>> >>> > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > >> On 29-07-2011 8:16, Peter Reinhold wrote:
>>> >>> > > > >>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:03:17 +0300, Bajdechi "Nightbox" > > >
>>> >>> > > > >>> >>> Alexandru
>>> >>> > > > > wrote:
>>> >>> > > > >>>> +1, after changelevel.
>>> >>> > > > >>>
>>> >>> > > > >>> I've had a couple of those as well today.
>>> >>> > > > >>>
>>> >>> > > > >>>
>>> >>> > > > >>> /Peter
>>> >>> > > > >>>
>>> >>> > > > >>>
>>> >>> > > > >>>
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>>> >>> > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > >>
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>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > --
>>> >>> > > Best regards,
>>> >>> > > AnAkIn,
>>> >>> > > -------------
>>> >>> > > ESL EU TF2 Admin
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>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>> >> AnAkIn,
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Michelle Sleeper
>>> > http://www.ThinkingWithPortals.com/
>>> > Portal 2 Mapping Community
>>> >
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