I like the list, however I think people need to take the time to read, comprehend, and most importantly make sure their topic is relevant to server administration before clicking Send.
In the very first email thread about registering servers for gift drops, it was clear to me that while registering the server is required, none of the quickplay gudelines are related. If the several dozen people replying to that email had read the whole thing, we won't have *this* discussion right now. I don't like the idea of forums, because it's a passive stream of data. People have to visit to check up on topics. People are just a lot less likely to reply to things in a forum environment. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Kigen <theki...@gmail.com> wrote: > Honestly, I don't like getting my inbox spammed with these messages. > > But some of the discussions taking place are important. > > Forums would provide a better way of keeping up with stuff without > junking up my inbox with random troubleshoot, "CS:S is dead", etc > messages. > > Plus, it would better facilitate moderation. > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:53 PM, msleeper <mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com> > wrote: > > The only advantage I can see to using a forum, is that I can tell > > people to use the search function when they ask dumb or common > > questions. > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:47 PM, bottige...@gmail.com > > <bottige...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I don't mind using a forum. > >> > >> There is a website called i3d.net that is scraping these discussions > >> and leaking emails to spammers. > >> > >> http://forum.i3d.net/hlds-valve-linux-newsletter/ > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Frank <ad...@gamerscrib.net> wrote: > >>> I agree...but when the link to sign-up is spread around to every Tom, > Dick > >>> and Harry with the ease of joining is the way it is, you will get > nonsense > >>> replies and confusion to those that don't understand what is going on > and/or > >>> refuse to search around to get the answers they need. > >>> > >>> The criteria to enter/join the list and reply needs to be defined > better > >>> with whatever means required. > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kigen > >>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:36 PM > >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >>> Cc: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Forum vs. email list > >>> > >>> I would be happy with just hlds_announce list. :) > >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Fletcher Dunn < > fletch...@valvesoftware.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>I am honestly astounded by the amount of people who complain when > >>>>>people ask for help on help forums or mailing lists. Not everyone > >>>>>signs up and instantly reads everything, goes through all the > >>>>>archives, or spends hours researching. > >>>> > >>>> I'd like to use this comment as a springboard for a discussion about > the > >>> format of this list. > >>>> > >>>> I hear that a few years ago the idea of migrating the email list to a > >>> forum was kicked around. However, at the time (is this still true > today?) > >>> the users of the list didn't like the idea. it is my understanding > that > >>> most server admins prefer: > >>>> > >>>> 1.) Receiving push notifications. > >>>> 2.) Viewing the list in their email client > >>>> > >>>> #1 seems like a really compelling advantage (especially for > >>> announcements), while #2 seems like a personal preference, and many > people > >>> have the opposite preference. > >>>> > >>>> A forum has several compelling advantages: > >>>> > >>>> 1.) Easier to search and find answers to previously asked questions > >>>> 2.) Easier to follow a thread of conversation. (I personally find any > >>>> email distribution list to become unreadable pretty much instantly, > >>>> with all the >>>>'s and broken line breaks that everybody's mail > >>>> clients and put everywhere.) > >>>> 3.) Easier to modify your post if you notice a mistake or want to > clarify > >>> something, rather than making a new post. > >>>> 4.) Easier to delete or move posts if they are spam, rude, > inappropriate, > >>> belong in the general TF2 SPUF forum, etc. > >>>> 5.) Easier to ignore an entire thread that you are not interested in. > >>>> > >>>> Could there be some sort of forum + push notification that would > satisfy > >>> what everybody wants? This list exists to serve you guys, so I'm > curious > >>> what everything thinks. I *believe* most of the guys would find a > forum > >>> format (perhaps with some push notification) more convenient. > >>>> > >>>> It would be good to get some opinions about how people prefer to > consume > >>> the information on this list. > >>>> > >>>> Please chime in. > >>>> > >>>> Your humble servant, > >>>> - Fletch > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
