Just one last comment. Engaged game server administrators who police their community, experiment with rule changes and custom maps and modes, etc, add a tremendous amount of value to our game. We would be making a huge mistake to alienate those guys (you guys) or stifle any experimentation.
We're hoping this tool will help to identify those servers who maliciously make a hostile experience for players who just want to play the game, thus doing damage to our community. Now excuse me, I need to get back to figuring out why registered servers sometimes aren't getting the special gift drops! Your humble servant, Fletch From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 11:54 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] About the TF2 in-game abuse reporting tool Well, we have a set of rules and a lot of banned players who've tried hacking us, trolling us, etc to get us back. What rules *WE* enforce should be our business, shouldn't it? So we've got a large ban list of trolls, dicks, hackers, etc. People often do not like us for actually enforcing our rules....and want to "hate" on us. We have a decent player base who support us and like that we take an active and often hardline approach toward the "isms" (racism, sexism, ageism, etc.) as well as toward trolls/dicks in general. Will valve "investigate" and actually consult with the server owner/community? Do I need to start doing demos, screenshots and recordings of folks spewing all of the hate speech and rule breaking just to cover my back? I ask this because compared to some other servers, we *ARE* a little more strict than other servers. So with this new subjective aspect, it has me wondering what's to come. And why now? Free to play was implemented, which allows even more anonymous trolls to make account after account (and even change their IP as well), and now I gotta answer for banishing groups of them off my server? This may just be the end of our servers, as I never thought, as a server owner, I'd have to "answer" to Valve for the server I ran when I am not violating any terms of service in doing so. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:33 PM, E. Olsen <ceo.eol...@gmail.com<mailto:ceo.eol...@gmail.com>> wrote: That's a valid question - an abuse reporting system has been put in place, without telling the users what consittutes abuse (which I think would lead to many more false reports than not). Some guidelines (both for users and server operators) might be beneficial, both to keep down the number of nuisance reports, AND help the server operators to stay in compliance. It's all well and good to say that Valve reserves the right to ban servers/IP's for abuse, but without knowing what the rules/guidelines are, it's giving operators an invisible line and telling us "don't cross this". On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:18 PM, <doctor...@web.de<mailto:doctor...@web.de>> wrote: What is considered as abusive behaviour? ___________________________________________________________ SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE<http://WEB.DE> FreeMail - einfach, schnell und kostenguenstig. Jetzt gleich testen! http://f.web.de/?mc=021192 _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
