I do see Valve's reasoning for this. They want new players to play the game the way they designed it. Not with weird plugins, maps, or configs. I think they planned on having new players eventually grow out of the playpens that are the Valve servers, but as Cameron says, they aren't. Or at least it does not look like they are. I would love to see some data on this, if it could even be gathered.
Also let's face it, the only real way to find other community servers are either via your friends list (where do my friends play), and the server browser and that thing is, was, and always will be a mess. So with these two limited (and intimidating options (again, server browser)), they will continue to hit the play now button. I don't really think that Valve is killing the TF2 community by doing this, but they are not really helping the few of us that could really use some help getting servers off the ground. As an aside, I'd love to see an additional bonus for those of us with smaller account ids (like those of us with sub 1000) :D On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Cameron Munroe <cmun...@cameronmunroe.com>wrote: > I agree with you on the fact that people are complaining about my server > not being full and that they don't like the server anyways, but what Valve > has done is still like handing all young children a smoke and lighting it > for them, once they are addicted to it they never leave or leave that that > brand, therfore Valve is teaching noobs to play on their servers and not > community servers. > > > > anyways..... I am just upset that Valve is using its powers to kill a > wonderful community. > > > > On 2012-04-25 13:30, 1nsane wrote: > >> No duh... lots of people are joining Valve servers directly. Practically >> all the new players that is >> They click the first button that says "Start Playing" and they are >> sent directly to a valve server. >> >> "tf_matchmaking_noob_hours_**played" = "8.0" >> "tf_matchmaking_noob_map_**score_boost" = "0.75" >> >> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:21 PM, dan <needa...@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> On 25/04/2012 20:57, Cameron Munroe wrote: >>> >>> Certain plugins are frankly needed due to the fact of hacking. i.e. >>>> smac, >>>> but still valve servers are going to be more full as you state simply >>>> because of the fact that they are funneling traffic to their servers. >>>> >>>> >>> Perhaps, but in general a plugin that is obviously there is usually dumb >>> (imo) >>> I'm not sure SMAC fits into that, assuming it actually achieves anything. >>> >>> As I said, Valve's servers could be full because people are actively >>> joining them. >>> We don't know the %age that use quickplay. >>> >>> Either way it's moot, if quickplay put people on servers they didn't >>> like, >>> they wouldn't use it. >>> >>> It seems the complaints here are that lots of people are playing on >>> servers that the server owners don't like them joining - it's not >>> compelling evidence of a problem is it? :) >>> >>> -- >>> Dan. >>> >>> >>> ______________________________****_________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> >>> https://list.valvesoftware.****com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/*** >>> *hlds_linux<https://list.**valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/** >>> mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux<https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> >>> > >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux<https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> >> > > -- > -- Cameron Munroe > > http://www.cameronmunroe.com/ > http://www.munroenet.com/ > http://www.gaming-servers.net/ > > ______________________________**_________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux<https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > -- AksumkA.com <http://aksumka.com> _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
