>
> Going on a tirade and calling Valve EA is not going to support your
> argument, you're just going to look like you just stepped out of r/gaming
> which dosen't give you much in terms of credibility. We don't need the EA
> is omg evil circlejerk over here in unrelated topics.


Completely agree.
Not only, I think Supreet misunderstood the objective of this list. It's
about server administration, not steam community shananigans.


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Emil Larsson <ail...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can chime in here, over 4200 members on a invite only group. Mass
> inviting is a cancer, and I'm glad Valve put a limit to it.
>
> Going on a tirade and calling Valve EA is not going to support your
> argument, you're just going to look like you just stepped out of r/gaming
> which dosen't give you much in terms of credibility. We don't need the EA
> is omg evil circlejerk over here in unrelated topics.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Flubber <flub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "but what's the solution
> > for groups (like I mentioned above) who only invite people who visit
> their
> > servers and give them a chance to be part of a community of group."
> >
> > For me that's the definition of spamming as much as random invites.
> > As ICS we don't used bots or mass invites, our group count around 4500
> > people, all of them have requested to be invited since we limited joining
> > to members invite only. This way we know that each of those members
> really
> > want to join the group, and not just click on a random invite.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> >
> >
> > 2014/1/22 ics <i...@ics-base.net>
> >
> > > I remember these big groups using invite bots to invite people in. Some
> > > even had a bot that sent an invite once player connected to their
> > server. I
> > > also remember competing group in same country as i did, growing slower
> > than
> > > mine. Suddenly they had 13 000 more people in due to bot.
> > >
> > > I never used bot and never will, having only 2422 users but every
> single
> > > one has made a decision to join in by themselves. Big groups are just
> > full
> > > of people that accept invites blindly because they want to belong
> > > somewhere. The group numbers are simply useless and not a good
> comparison
> > > how "good" the community is.
> > >
> > > So if i were you, i'd stop worrying.
> > >
> > > -ics
> > >
> > >
> > > Supreet kirjoitti:
> > >
> > >  Hello,
> > >>
> > >> This message is directed at the nut job working at EA who had the
> > biggest
> > >> influence on throttling group invites.
> > >>
> > >> Right now, groups like Skial, Lotus, Kill-Streak, Fug and many other
> > >> groups
> > >> are dropping faster than the twin towers.
> > >>
> > >> Why? Because someone decided to complete handicap the group invite
> > limit.
> > >>
> > >> I'm not going to even bother writing anything provided you don't have
> > >> common sense or a simple understanding of mathematics principle.
> > >>
> > >> The only thing that is happening to big groups right now is the
> numbers
> > >> are
> > >> decreasing. The amount of players that are being invited through
> random
> > >> friends compared to the amount of people leaving is so offset that
> > >> eventually - in the future, the group will have half its current
> > members.
> > >>
> > >> Steam Community is a beautiful thing and groups are useful is posting
> > >> important announcements and putting out events to get servers filled
> up.
> > >> Why are you stunting a community's growth by these methods?
> > >>
> > >> People leaving a group is perfectly normal, but what's also normal is
> > >> refreshing an audience. There need to be people LEAVING and JOINING at
> > the
> > >> same time. Right now, the ratio is so offset that the groups will ONLY
> > DIE
> > >> OVER TIME.
> > >>
> > >> By the way, you found a solution to spam inviters, but what's the
> > solution
> > >> for groups (like I mentioned above) who only invite people who visit
> > their
> > >> servers and give them a chance to be part of a community of group.
> > >>
> > >> Sincerely,
> > >> A proud community owner
> > >>
> > >> Someone from EA.. Oh did I get that mixed up. My bad, didn't see a
> > >> difference there. Someone from Valve please comment on this and what
> do
> > >> you
> > >> suggest as a solution to big groups with dropping numbers every day.
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