But the amount of players who can readily make something like that within UGC is not all that high. People thought of me as a messiah for my simple plugin when I had only learned about programming in SMod 2 days prior.
Making a plugin to continue to cheat is way more steps involved than simply typing an rcon command in console. Nothing will ever 100% stop cheaters, but it's silly not to even try to slow them down. If we're going to just toss our hands in the air and say it's pointless because there will always be a workaround then why even bother having a VAC system in place. On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Ross Bemrose <rbemr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, that was a given. > > After all, server plugins can remove the cheat flag just as readily as the > notify flag. > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:46 AM, AnAkkk <anakin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > That's pointless, someone could make a a plugin to remove the notify > flag. > > You should only trust servers that are hosted by leagues where no one has > > the rcon_password or any access to the machine. There are many other > cvars > > that can be modified the same way and be used to cheat. > > > > 2015-05-19 14:41 GMT+01:00 Ross Bemrose <rbemr...@gmail.com>: > > > > > Either way, tf_backstab_detection_method should probably be flagged as > > > Notify so that all players are told when its value changes. > > > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:13 AM, N-Gon <ngongamedes...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > Hey, while we're on the subject of exploits I wanted to bring > something > > > up. > > > > > > > > tf_backstab_detection_method > > > > > > > > Currently that cvar can be changed on the fly with just rcon access. > > > > It's not Cheat or Notify flagged. > > > > > > > > I've had reports from 3 different UGC Plat players who are highly > > > > suspicious of other teams using this on a toggle to allow their spies > > > easy > > > > facestabs when they need them. > > > > Adding a flag to this command will not harm anyone and it will be a > > load > > > > off the minds of the Comp players who have no way of proving this is > > > being > > > > done in official matches. > > > > > > > > I made a plugin that, among other things, flagged this thing is a > > cheat. > > > > It's a nice start but I can't force everyone to use my plugin. But if > > > Valve > > > > were to change this I wouldn't have to :) > > > > > > > > -Miggy > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Bruno Garcia < > garcia.bru...@gmail.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > "Fixed *crash* when getting a malformed KeyValues buffer" > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:11 PM, N-Gon <ngongamedes...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Out of curiosity, what exactly did this do? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Kyle Sanderson < > > kyle.l...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that this exploit is public knowledge, any idea when we > will > > > see > > > > > > > the remaining mainline Source Games updated? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Kyle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Eric Smith < > > > er...@valvesoftware.com > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > We've released an optional update for Team Fortress 2. > > Dedicated > > > > > > servers > > > > > > > do not need to download the update but you can if you'd like. > The > > > > note > > > > > > for > > > > > > > the update is below. The updated version is 2771145. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Eric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fixed crash when getting a malformed KeyValues buffer > (thanks > > > to > > > > > > > Nathaniel Theis for the report) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ross Bemrose > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > -- > Ross Bemrose > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
