Hi Tim, Well said, if you have time and ideas join exvolvo :) -----Original Message----- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tim Anderson Sent: 01 November 2016 20:51 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] The End
For those of you not hosting TF2 servers, you may not understand what the issue is. Over the past couple of years, the TF2 team at Valve has been killing community servers by making them more and more difficult to find and reach, and content that did not work on community servers. Community servers went from being more populated than official servers to being less populated through these unnatural changes. A few months ago, Valve put every community server into a separate category at the bottom of the list (basically custom tabs 2.0) which I could not believe was being described as a positive for community servers https://twitter.com/4G_b4nny/status/729839464684490752 You even had server owners here thinking it was actually a good thing. And now this is the first Halloween update where community servers are completely excluded and even the most popular community servers are starting to empty out. Even if you are not hosting TF2, you should be more considerate and think about the possibility that something like this will happen to your server and game. John Schoenick or Eric Smith, if by any chance you are reading this, these changes will probably kill community servers for good. I've seen many of the most popular ones empty out for the first time this Halloween. If you want to just kill community servers, at least have the decency to tell us so we do not waste anymore time and money. On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 6:13 AM, Martin V <velt...@gmail.com> wrote: > What the fuck > > 1 lis 2016 13:12 "Erik-jan Riemers" <riem...@binkey.nl> napisał(a): > >> Ah martin, you will be missed too if the mailing list ever dies. >> Nobody can nuke a thread like you do. >> >> 2016-11-01 12:22 GMT+01:00 Martin V <velt...@gmail.com>: >> >> > Who gives a fuck? >> > >> > 1 lis 2016 07:41 "Erik-jan Riemers" <riem...@binkey.nl> napisał(a): >> > >> > > Feel free to add me to the party. Still have a couple of tf2's >> > > but most have died indeed too. Now its mostly 7d2d/ark related >> > > stuff. Although >> > less >> > > fun since it doesn't have sourcemod (admin wise) >> > > >> > > 2016-10-31 23:34 GMT+01:00 ics <i...@ics-base.net>: >> > > >> > > > Maybe we can, add me up on steam if you like (/id/ics/). >> > > > However, >> > despite >> > > > the community servers of mine quieting down, ill still stick >> > > > with TF2 servers, atleast for a while. >> > > > >> > > > Though making maps is more interesting to me these days. It's >> > > > been a >> > very >> > > > good year and hopefully more to come! >> > > > >> > > > Cya around! >> > > > >> > > > -ics >> > > > >> > > > Simiancage kirjoitti: >> > > > >> > > >> Saint if you have any ideas on new community based gaming I'd >> > > >> be >> most >> > > >> interested to hear them, currently playing around with an ARK >> > > >> server >> > > but it >> > > >> is with some personal indulgence as I just bought the htc vive >> > > >> :) Thanks to ICS and all others that have felt our pain, maybe >> > > >> we can >> all >> > > >> get together and start something new??? >> > > >> >> > > >> Cheers D3v >> > > >> >> > > >> -----Original Message----- >> > > >> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: >> > > >> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K. >> > > >> Sent: 27 October 2016 13:57 >> > > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list < >> > > >> h...@list.valvesoftware.com>; Half-Life dedicated Linux server >> > mailing >> > > >> list <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> >> > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] The End >> > > >> >> > > >> Not to become over dramatic, but us from SpecialAttack have >> > > >> decided >> to >> > > go >> > > >> down the same route. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> It's a shame, but that's how life works. Saying goodbye to >> > > >> VALVe >> > hosted >> > > >> games after some 17(!) years. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> It's been a rocky ride with a very sour tasting end, but it is >> > > >> what >> it >> > > is. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> Cheers all, >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> Saint K. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> From: Richard Green <i...@rgb-services.co.uk> >> > > >> To: <h...@list.valvesoftware.com> >> > > >> Sent: 10/27/2016 8:02 AM >> > > >> Subject: [hlds] The End >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> After years of watching our community dwindle to no more >> > > >> than a >> > group >> > > >> of friends it’s time to put the last nail in the coffin, >> > Simiancage.org >> > > has >> > > >> been around since pre 2004 and most of the founders like >> > > >> myself were >> > cs >> > > >> 1.3/4/5/6 clan members who started Simiancage. >> > > >> This has always been cs/css/csgo based community and tf2 was a >> > > >> great community builder as was L4D2 however as we all know >> > > >> those days are >> > gone >> > > >> and it is time to say adjure, valve have succeeded in killing >> > > >> 1 more >> > > cs/tf >> > > >> based community as we now look towards running new servers of >> > > >> a new >> > > style. >> > > >> Good luck valve in killing your own reputation further. >> > > >> This is not a moan just a statement of Simiancage’s refusal to >> > > >> prop >> > > valve >> > > >> in these games any further. >> > > >> Regards to all >> > > >> D3vilfish >> > > >> PS Ive enjoyed some of the helpful emails over the years to >> > > >> sort server/sourcemod problems out, I remember when updates to >> > > >> tf2 would >> > come >> > > >> out on new years eve….. >> > > >> ICS you have been most helpful over the years too, good luck >> > > >> m8 >> > > >> >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > > >> please visit: >> > > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > > >> please visit: >> > > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_l >> > > >> inux >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > > >> please visit: >> > > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_l >> > > >> inux >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > > > please visit: >> > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_li >> > > > nux >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > > archives, please visit: >> > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linu >> > > x >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > archives, please visit: >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux