Here is a tutorial on navigating with the mouse while in Texture Application
Mode :
http://www.shawnolson.net/a/1428/mouse-navigation-in-valve-hammer-editor.htm
l The Z button is the solution.

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:21:55 -0400
From: M M <[email protected]>
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yes I know how to select multiple faces; I am referring to faces large
distances apart. And about my perception of time - it's working perfectly.
It is the method I became used to and remember, and the amount of control,
to me at least, feels as far apart as a mouse fps and an Xbox controller. Go
look at hammer 3.4 if you are curious about it. (Yes I am old school and
just getting  back into mapping) I'm not sure why this has been changed but
I'll deal.


> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:17:45 +0100
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [hlmappers] hlmappers Digest, Vol 13, Issue 1
> 
> To select faces from the same brush just use shift and/or ctrl. If I 
> want to choose all faces except one, I select that one and I click 
> another time holding ctrl+shift. Its also useful for big brushes or 
> faces that are difficult to see with the camera.
> To rotate the camera, as I said, I use the arrow keys and to move 
> forward/backwards I just use the mouse wheel. Its fast, easy and useful. 
> If you whant to pan the view you can hold shift shile pressing the arrow 
> keys.
> Pressing the z key is fastest thought.
> 
> Joe W-A escribi?:
> > It wouldn't, it would be slower. His perception of time is simply
> > non-standard.
> >
> > 2009/3/10 tgnwells <[email protected]>
> >
> >   
> >> How would using the mouse button to rotate be any faster?
> >>
> >> M M wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Joe W-A's Z key method is the best I can get but I know I am not able
to
> >>>       
> >> work as fast as I used to. If I wanted to select opposite faces on a
large
> >> brush I would move by holding down lmb or rmb to make quick camera
> >> adjustments.
> >>     
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>       
> >>>> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:32:37 -0700
> >>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject: Re: [hlmappers] hlmappers Digest, Vol 13, Issue 1
> >>>>
> >>>> as long as you dont click anything, you don't have to hit control
when
> >>>>         
> >> you
> >>     
> >>>> move around. you would only deselect the faces from before if you
> >>>>         
> >> clicked
> >>     
> >>>> again or hit escape.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Igor Krucko <[email protected]
> >>>>         
> >>> wrote:
> >>>       
> >>>>         
> >>>>> Can't you just press ctrl, move around with the camera while you
keep
> >>>>> pressing ctrl, and then resume selecting the faces ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If I remember correctly this was possible in Hammer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hope it helps ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Igor
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>> 1. Quick question about selecting multiple faces (M M)
> >>>>>> 2. Re: Quick question about selecting multiple faces (Alfonso
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> >>>>>> 3. Re: Quick question about selecting multiple faces (M M)
> >>>>>> 4. Re: Quick question about selecting multiple faces (Joe W-A)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Message: 1
> >>>>>> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 02:31:53 -0400
> >>>>>> From: M M <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Subject: [hlmappers] Quick question about selecting multiple faces
> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If I am working with textures in Hammer and I would like to select
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>> textures I cannot view simultaneously, meaning textures on opposite
> >>>>>           
> >> sides of
> >>     
> >>>>> a brush or in different parts of a map, how do I do it? I am asking
> >>>>>           
> >> this
> >>     
> >>>>> because I remember being able to switch to the camera and keep faces
> >>>>> selected. Hammer seems to no longer have that functionality. Thanks
for
> >>>>>           
> >> any
> >>     
> >>>>> help.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
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> >>>>>> ------------------------------
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> >>>>>> Message: 2
> >>>>>> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:43:10 +0100
> >>>>>> From: Alfonso Arbona <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlmappers] Quick question about selecting multiple
faces
> >>>>>> To: Discussion of Half-Life Mapping
<[email protected]
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> While in texture mode, you can still use arrow keys and the mouse
weel
> >>>>>> to move around your map. What you cant do is to change mode (to
camera
> >>>>>> mode for example) because you loose your selection.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> M M escribi?:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>>>> If I am working with textures in Hammer and I would like to select
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> textures I cannot view simultaneously, meaning textures on opposite
> >>>>>           
> >> sides of
> >>     
> >>>>> a brush or in different parts of a map, how do I do it? I am asking
> >>>>>           
> >> this
> >>     
> >>>>> because I remember being able to switch to the camera and keep faces
> >>>>> selected. Hammer seems to no longer have that functionality. Thanks
for
> >>>>>           
> >> any
> >>     
> >>>>> help.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
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> >>>>>>>               
> >> to
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Message: 3
> >>>>>> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 03:00:01 -0400
> >>>>>> From: M M <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlmappers] Quick question about selecting multiple
faces
> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, I use the camera with the mouse only, by holding one or both
of
> >>>>>> the l/r buttons. Having to use the keyboard with only the
mousewheel
> >>>>>>             
> >> is
> >>     
> >>>>>> extremely awkward for me, so I guess I am looking for a way to
disable
> >>>>>> the texture application on right clicking, if that is even possible
> >>>>>> (and lets me move using only the mouse). thanks though.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 07:43:10 +0100
> >>>>>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlmappers] Quick question about selecting multiple
> >>>>>>>               
> >> faces
> >>     
> >>>>>>> While in texture mode, you can still use arrow keys and the mouse
> >>>>>>>               
> >> weel
> >>     
> >>>>>>> to move around your map. What you cant do is to change mode (to
> >>>>>>>               
> >> camera
> >>     
> >>>>>>> mode for example) because you loose your selection.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> M M escribi?:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> If I am working with textures in Hammer and I would like to
select
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>> textures I cannot view simultaneously, meaning textures on opposite
> >>>>>           
> >> sides of
> >>     
> >>>>> a brush or in different parts of a map, how do I do it? I am asking
> >>>>>           
> >> this
> >>     
> >>>>> because I remember being able to switch to the camera and keep faces
> >>>>> selected. Hammer seems to no longer have that functionality. Thanks
for
> >>>>>           
> >> any
> >>     
> >>>>> help.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
> >>>>>>>> Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite
groups
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>> to meet.
> >>>>>
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> >> <
> >>
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> >>     
> >>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Message: 4
> >>>>>> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:16:46 +1000
> >>>>>> From: Joe W-A <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlmappers] Quick question about selecting multiple
faces
> >>>>>> To: Discussion of Half-Life Mapping
<[email protected]
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>>> <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Just press Z and use WSAD and the mouse to move around.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2009/3/9 M M <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>>>> Well, I use the camera with the mouse only, by holding one or both
of
> >>>>>>> the l/r buttons. Having to use the keyboard with only the
mousewheel
> >>>>>>>               
> >> is
> >>     
> >>>>>>> extremely awkward for me, so I guess I am looking for a way to
> >>>>>>>               
> >> disable
> >>     
> >>>>>>> the texture application on right clicking, if that is even
possible
> >>>>>>> (and lets me move using only the mouse). thanks though.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 07:43:10 +0100
> >>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlmappers] Quick question about selecting multiple
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>> faces
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>>> While in texture mode, you can still use arrow keys and the mouse
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>> weel
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>>> to move around your map. What you cant do is to change mode (to
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>> camera
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>>> mode for example) because you loose your selection.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> M M escribi?:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>> If I am working with textures in Hammer and I would like to
select
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                   
> >>>>>>> textures I cannot view simultaneously, meaning textures on
opposite
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> sides of
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> a brush or in different parts of a map, how do I do it? I am
asking
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> this
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> because I remember being able to switch to the camera and keep
faces
> >>>>>>> selected. Hammer seems to no longer have that functionality.
Thanks
> >>>>>>>               
> >> for
> >>     
> >>>>> any
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> help.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>
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