[HolyGeek] Re: Re: Re: Re: [RTD] Interferences

[Lobster]

> What can be said that you feel is meant well? i'm not 
entirely sure what this question means... can you please restate it a little 
differently for me?

   
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  What about ts makes you feel he means you well
  is trying to be helpful
  and was sending you good info and advice
  and basically trying to help
  ===============
   
   
  > My feeling is you are hurting in some way > you feel 
  attacked or threatened 
   
  Yes, that is correct. You're right. And ts's behavior is escalating 
  it.

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  I do not feel ts is escalting anything
  you clearly do
  ================
   
   
I wasn't looking for any acknowledgement or validation that i 
should feel threatened... but neither was i looking for the sort of response 
that ts came up with. He was not appropriate, imo.

  ================
  I thought it was - ah well - we try our best . . .
  ================
   
   
 
ts's implication is that i cannot tell the imaginary from the 
real... he is on a very slippery slope with that whole line of reasoning. I did 
not imagine up the email that i received, it was real. Your supporting him in 
his mistaken beliefs is your right. He may mean well, but he is insensitive and 
does not know when to stop... even after being asked to stop, he continues 
on.

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  Joyce you can not tell the imaginary from the
  real when you are like this
   
  Is that true or not?
  ===========
   
   
I want an apology from ts. He was out of line and insensitive. He 
continues to be out of line... though he does not see it that way. HolyGeek is 
not an appropriate forum for what he posted, and i wish it to be removed... but 
i know that will not happen.

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  Whether ts apologises (for what I am not sure)
  is up to him
  And you are right
  I consider what he posted as appropriate
  AND it will not be removed
   
  Until you acknowledge that you do have
  a tendency towards paranoia
   
  what are we meant to say?
  "Yes Joyce this is how you trace
  something (that is in all liklihood not there)"
   
  We have played this game before
  and it is YOU who is out of line
  (IMO)
   
  (that I am out of line goes without question)
  and I make no apologies
   
   
  > I play games WHEN people are up to them 
   
  Oh Lobster, i think you know that i love your sense of humor and the 
  little games you play with people. They can be delicious fun. But, as you say, 
  you play them WHEN people are up to them... So you understand 
timing.

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  I felt
  I sensed
  I intuit
  NO ill will (far from it)
  from ts
  Yet you feel slighted
   
  I also sense
  I also intuit
  I also feel that 
  most of what is occuring is to do with
  your internal processes
   
  What aspect of that is untrue?
  ============
   
   
   
  > I believe (at the moment) you will see things in a > critical 
  way however innocent or well intended . . . > > Is that 
  possible? 
   
Of course, it is not only possible, it is predictable and likely 
<smile>.
 
 
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So will you be apologising?
==============
 
 
 
 
ts is starting to behave like Dave Birren did on insight back 
in the Autumn of 2002. Dp you remember that nightmare?
 
For example, i wrote
 
> you have been asked in the past to 
NOT do what you have been doing in this mail thread, and you continued to show 
disrespect in pursuing t yesterday.>
 
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Perhaps if you do not wish to pursue 
this
DON'T
Is there no delete button avialble to 
you?
============
 
 
Lob, when 
he says "i hope so 'cause ... i fully intend to." he is being again 
disrespectful.
He is saying that he has a right to keep me 
in his heart even if i do not want him to do so... That is being disrespectul of 
my wishes. This is the exact same thing that Dave Birren did. 
Do you understand how ts is causing 
distress? He is causing more distress than the initial email did. I've asked him 
to stop and he hasn't.
i'm sorry about all of this, fwiw...
love and peace,
joyce

   
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  I do not believe you are really Joyce.
  You are an imposter.
   
  Be Glad to hear from her soon . . .
   
  Lobster - usual non-apologetic bad behaviour . . .
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