Lobster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello Everyone :-)


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Hey guys - anyone know a good OS database?

Joyce is prototyping something in Access
I want to use Open Office (it seems to have some nice database reporting)

Ideally I want a free on line wiki type database (with password protection)
written in java perhaps - we may have to write our own in Curl
but sadly this would exclude the Linux users
and Mac users and those not willing to use the Curl plug in (heretics)

I looked at some of the free databases and found they were either just readers
too complex
not versatile enough . . .

Please save this poor cructacean from having to use MS Access



Dear Lobster, Dear Friends -

Repent and ye shall be saved (from MS Access) ??

:)

Perhaps you missed the part of the mail where i said i was doing the PROTOTYPING in Access and that the database could be implemented in HTML over the sever? Or that it could be ported into Curl? MS Access and/or Visual Basic are wonderful software products, among the gold standards in their respective classes... but you knew that.

Why am i prototyping in MS Access, she asks herself?

1) We use the available tools that are KNOWN to work (and that we are very very conversant in) when we have LIMITED TIME. There is no virtue in expending very large amounts of time web searching, downloading (over a dial up connection at max speed of 33k), installing, learning, and testing new software when one is rapid-prototyping a project, as i was doing here. It took less than half an hour to design and build that database... far less time than searching, downloading, etc.

2) Rapid prototyping can be done in any language a programmer is comfortable with and the results can then be ported into whatever you wish to use. You said we needed a database, i prototyped a database. I have also prototyped a database that tracks donations/payments from organizations, and that includes assocaited table of contact information for associated parties... but i'll hold off on sharing that one since the one i sent already did not meet your OS preference.

3) Open Office requires more disk space than is available on my laptop - i installed it a couple of weeks ago and had to abort the installation due to the ENORMOUS HUMONGOUS size of the thing. Hundreds of megabytes involved in the download and unzipping and installation... a disk space pig... (sorry to say that, but it is). Selective downloading and installs of only desired components would make much more sense. It is possible to selectively install only a single component, such as the Word Processor, but the initial download includes so much more than that.

4) I installed Open Office on the Dell PC successfully and I liked how the Word Processor worked and the results from it, but i have had nothing but troubles with that computer afterwards. It is perhaps because the OS there is Win ME, i can't say for certain, HOWEVER all of my recent hardware/software problems with that computer started immediately after installing Open Office. I am very careful about "blaming" any one piece of software for computer problems, but in this case, it is the only thing on the computer that had been newly added or changed. I know of only two other pieces of software that caused problems on that computer - Miranda and Skype Beta (not specced to run on Win ME in the first place, so not surprising).

5) With the database implemented on a server, and only the front-end GUI in use by anyone performing data maintenace or reporting, the choice of the development language should be transparent to the users...  


> You are running anti virus software and a firewall - right?
>
> :-)
>
> Well below is all the info on firewalls

Thanks for the info on firewalls. I disconnected the firewall on the dial up computer many weeks ago due to significantly degraded computer performance... I figure that anyone who wants to hack in to a computer connected anywhere from 26.6 to 33k is welcome to what i have to hide (nothing). It would require the patience of a saint to do that, i would imagine.

Happy Sunday everyone, and happy database software hunting. We'll just put my efforts on the shelf since you dislike MS Access.

love and peace,

:)

joyce                                       


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