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Russ White writes:
 
>  
> > At various jobs I pulled 10base2 coax, then 10base5 coax, then twisted
> > pair.  [Well someone pulled it, but not me.]  Anyone remember vampire
> > taps in 10base2?  What a reliability headache!
>  
> Pulled from cable hanging in a "plenum" in a secure building... Because
> there was no way to get cable floor to floor other than through that
> single shaft. For a Xerox Star system. Then there was the token bus for
> the little Novell network over in legal --another disaster. <blech>

I managed to avoid token ring and novell.

> > Back on topic: I do think we should consider OSPF (not so keen on
> > ISIS, but OK) and should not rule out OLSRv2 or other LLN related work
> > and MANET work (though I'm far from an expert on LLN or MANET).
>  
> IS-IS is easier to get to "zero config," and it's actually simpler in
> operation... Which is why I brought it up. :-)

I've used both.  Why do you think ISIS is simpler in operation?
Because people love to deal with NSAPs?

> > We will have to extend OSPF to make zero config possible.  The
> > extensions should be completely backwards compatible if at all
> > possible.
>  
> Yes, I agree... Or we need w new wired/wireless protocol that jumps both
> worlds, and would actually be acceptable and implemented by a large
> number of vendors. But that's another entire problem space...

We agree on something.  That's good.  :-)

The clueless vendor problem space is a tough one.

> :-)
>  
> Russ

Curtis
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