Interesting,
 
I think the reason for the 2/3 1/3 horn embouchure is to help with the low 
register... I don't think it has that much to do with the upper.  

I suggested the Farkas book because of the picture.  A good place to start.
 
And, when I joined my first Air Force band I was a trumpet player.  I changed 
to 
the horn a y ear and a half later.  It was a really big thing changing the 
embouchure!  And I think??? that the horn placement will work quite well for 
the 
trumpet.  In fact I have seen a few pro trumpet players that have embouchure 
placement closer to the 2/3 1/3 horn placement that the traditional trumpet 
placement.
 
Hey guys but what do I know?    Really the whole idea for the kids is to have 
fun... Or should be.

 Milton
Milton Kicklighter
4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic
Retired 




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From: valerie wells <[email protected]>
To: horn list 2 memphis <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 6:14:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] mouthpiece question

>I don't have any advice as to the mouthpiece, but BE SURE that the
placement of the mouthpiece on the lips is for the horn embouchure and not
the trumpet. 2/3 upper lip....1/3 lower lip. Trumpet is usually the
opposite... Or at least it used to be. See the Farkas book if one is
available.<

Milton's comment reminds me of the golden age of Philip Farkas.  (What a
fabulous horn player he was!)  When I was still a teen, I auditioned before
the brass faculty for the university music school.  I'll never
forget trumpet professor's reaction. "Nice tone," he said, "but you look
like you've been playing trumpet."  So... the horn professor and I set to
work to transform my embouchure into a classic Farkas embouchure (whatever
that is!).  It wasn't successful for me.  After two years, I hadn't added a
single note to my upper register and I struggled constantly with poor
endurance.

Does that mean the "Farkas" embouchure was wrong?  No!

So what was wrong?  Me trying to look like Farkas!

To me, this means that no student should be told to "look" like someone else
when he/she plays.  I believe that there's very little to be gained from
telling any student to play w/ a certain percentage of upper or lower,
placement of the rim here or there, etc.  This doesn't mean that students
shouldn't be encouraged to experiment with both conventional and
unconventional mouthpiece placements for the purpose of discovery, but no
student should be *required* to look a certain way when they play.  The
SOUND should guide the horn player's embouchure decisions rather than the
LOOK.

BTW, I'm very happy with my chops now, thanks to BE.  I'm not sure whether
or not my embouchure "looks" dramatically different than before, but it
certainly functions a lot better.

Valerie Wells

http://bebabe.wordpress.com/

http://www.beforhorn.blogspot.com/
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