Thanks for the post!  I really like the piece and the performance all around.  
BEAUTIFUL horn sound from Leelanee Sterrett!  -Whit


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Pardon the double post, cousins, but this is good.
Right now on NPRMusic, National Public Radio's music website, you can hear (or 
ear and see) a performance of David Bruce's terrific new octet "Steampunk."  
t's scored for strings, winds, and horn.  Over the last week, I've listened to 
he piece five or six times, and I like it a lot.
Here, it's played by Ensemble ACJW, a "collective of about 20 hand-selected 
raduates of major conservatories, [whose] members receive mentorship and 
rofessional development while working as music teachers in New York City Public 
chools."  The horn part is both prominent and meaty.  The hornist is Leelanee 
terrett.
"Steampunk" is on the second half of the program and begins at about 44:30.
http://www.npr.org/2011/04/07/135117828/ensemble-acjw-at-wqxr?ps=mh_frhdl1
http://tinyurl.com/4xru6uh
--John







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   1. Bell "ringing" - what does it mean? (Brass Arts Unlimited)
  2. Re: Bell "ringing" - what does it mean? ([email protected])
  3. Re: Bell "ringing" - what does it mean? (Reicher, Tom)
  4. On NPR, wonderful new chamber music for horn (John Edwin Mason)
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Howard wrote: "I don't want to cut the bell on my N series 8D because the
ell rings
orever. I suspect cutting it would destroy that. I remember one day
p in Boonsboro Walter Lawson was telling me how their bells ring
etter than others. He whacked my N series 8D's bell with his finger,
nd it probably still hasn't quit ringing. He was visibly shaken, and
mmediately stopped telling me about that aspect of his bells'
uperiority!"
I have always had enormous respect for Walter and his work, but this is one
hing I could never understand.  What does a ringing bell flare mean?  What
oes the old "thunk test" prove?  You could whack a steel mixing bowl and it
ork ring for a week.  But would that bowl make a good horn bell?  And, all
ther things being relatively equal, what would it tell you about a flare
hat rung and rung versus one that seemed dead when you whacked it?  You
on't whack a horn to get the sound out.  You vibrate the air column.  If a
ell just kept ringing and ringing, would that not actually interfere with
ttacks, or with notes speaking, when playing runs?  And if not, why not?
I'm sure that a certain amount of "ringing" is probably good for a bell
lare to have, but isn't possible to have too much of a good thing?  I still
aven't puzzled this out, and I sure would appreciate some enlightenment.
o one I've talked with about this can give me a satisfactory explanation,
nd I'd love to have one.
-- 
Regards,
Dave Weiner
rass Arts Unlimited*

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ate: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:40:54 -0400 (EDT)
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I would think that a bell that rings longer would be preferable because so  
any factors affect the resonance. I hate wearing a coat when I play 
ecause  even if I roll up the sleeve a bit and hold the horn off my leg I still 
feel  like the sound is deadened. Also, the person sitting next to me and the 
erson  behind me is wearing a coat and acting as a sponge .I even ask the  
erson sitting to my right at a rehearsal not to drape their jacket on the  
ack of their chair. I think that if a bell has a little more life it  
roduces a little clearer sound and projects better. I may be wrong or mentally  
ill and I humbly accept that fact.
es Hatch
www.weshatchhorns.com_ (http://www.weshatchhorns.com)  


n a message dated 4/19/2011 12:19:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:
Howard  wrote: "I don't want to cut the bell on my N series 8D because the
ell  rings
orever. I suspect cutting it would destroy that. I remember one  day
p in Boonsboro Walter Lawson was telling me how their bells  ring
etter than others. He whacked my N series 8D's bell with his  finger,
nd it probably still hasn't quit ringing. He was visibly shaken,  and
mmediately stopped telling me about that aspect of his  bells'
uperiority!"
I have always had enormous respect for Walter  and his work, but this is one
hing I could never understand.  What  does a ringing bell flare mean?  What
oes the old "thunk test"  prove?  You could whack a steel mixing bowl and 
t
ork ring for a  week.  But would that bowl make a good horn bell?  And, all
ther  things being relatively equal, what would it tell you about a flare
hat  rung and rung versus one that seemed dead when you whacked it?   You
on't whack a horn to get the sound out.  You vibrate the air  column.  If a
ell just kept ringing and ringing, would that not  actually interfere with
ttacks, or with notes speaking, when playing  runs?  And if not, why not?
I'm sure that a certain amount of  "ringing" is probably good for a bell
lare to have, but isn't possible to  have too much of a good thing?  I 
till
aven't puzzled this out, and  I sure would appreciate some enlightenment.
o one I've talked with about  this can give me a satisfactory explanation,
nd I'd love to have  one.
-- 
Regards,
Dave Weiner
rass Arts  Unlimited*
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ate: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 10:43:18 -0700
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Perhaps the most responsive horn I have played is a very old Raoux cor solo.  
It 
as no ring when one strikes the bell and so would fail any "thunk" test.  And 
et the bell responds magnificently to the slightest vibrating air column.  I 
hink that the test is how the horn plays, not how the bell responds when struck 
ike a cymbal.
Tom Reicher

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Howard wrote: "I don't want to cut the bell on my N series 8D because the
ell rings
orever. I suspect cutting it would destroy that. I remember one day
p in Boonsboro Walter Lawson was telling me how their bells ring
etter than others. He whacked my N series 8D's bell with his finger,
nd it probably still hasn't quit ringing. He was visibly shaken, and
mmediately stopped telling me about that aspect of his bells'
uperiority!"
I have always had enormous respect for Walter and his work, but this is one
hing I could never understand.  What does a ringing bell flare mean?  What
oes the old "thunk test" prove?  You could whack a steel mixing bowl and it
ork ring for a week.  But would that bowl make a good horn bell?  And, all
ther things being relatively equal, what would it tell you about a flare
hat rung and rung versus one that seemed dead when you whacked it?  You
on't whack a horn to get the sound out.  You vibrate the air column.  If a
ell just kept ringing and ringing, would that not actually interfere with
ttacks, or with notes speaking, when playing runs?  And if not, why not?
I'm sure that a certain amount of "ringing" is probably good for a bell
lare to have, but isn't possible to have too much of a good thing?  I still
aven't puzzled this out, and I sure would appreciate some enlightenment.
o one I've talked with about this can give me a satisfactory explanation,
nd I'd love to have one.
--
Regards,
Dave Weiner
rass Arts Unlimited*
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Pardon the double post, cousins, but this is good.
Right now on NPRMusic, National Public Radio's music website, you can hear (or 
ear and see) a performance of David Bruce's terrific new octet "Steampunk."  
t's scored for strings, winds, and horn.  Over the last week, I've listened to 
he piece five or six times, and I like it a lot.
Here, it's played by Ensemble ACJW, a "collective of about 20 hand-selected 
raduates of major conservatories, [whose] members receive mentorship and 
rofessional development while working as music teachers in New York City Public 
chools."  The horn part is both prominent and meaty.  The hornist is Leelanee 
terrett.
"Steampunk" is on the second half of the program and begins at about 44:30.
http://www.npr.org/2011/04/07/135117828/ensemble-acjw-at-wqxr?ps=mh_frhdl1
http://tinyurl.com/4xru6uh
--John
******************************
ohn Edwin Mason, Photography:
ttp://www.JohnEdwinMason.com
harlottesville and Cape Town

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ate: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:09:32 -0700 (PDT)
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Cousins,
This is interesting enough.? "Steampunk's" composer, David Bruce, talking about 
he piece and our beloved instrument:
"When Ensemble ACJW offered me this commission based around the Beethoven 
Septet 
ine-up (though I added an oboe to mine in the end), the horn and bassoon 
mmediately stood out to me as defining colours of the group and somehow a 
onnection formed between them and the images of the steampunk world.? I think 
bove all it was the French horn with its crazy complicated brass plumbing, 
aking it about as iconic a steampunk instrument as you could hope for; but 
imilarly the bassoon, the bass clarinet and the cor anglais each have the 
istinct air of an eccentric Victorian gentleman, the product of a particular 
ind of obsession.? It seemed like a line-up from a steampunk cartoon."
More, including streaming audio and video performances, here:
http://www.davidbruce.net/works/steampunk.asp
--John
******************************
ohn Edwin Mason, Photography:
ttp://www.JohnEdwinMason.com
harlottesville and Cape Town

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