Howard wrote: "I don't want to cut the bell on my N series 8D because
the
bell rings
forever. I suspect cutting it would destroy that. I remember one day
up in Boonsboro Walter Lawson was telling me how their bells ring
better than others. He whacked my N series 8D's bell with his finger,
and it probably still hasn't quit ringing. He was visibly shaken, and
immediately stopped telling me about that aspect of his bells'
superiority!"

Dave W wrote
I have always had enormous respect for Walter and his work, but this is
one thing I could never understand.  What does a ringing bell flare 
mean?
What does the old "thunk test" prove?  You could whack a steel mixing 
bowl
and it work ring for a week.  But would that bowl make a good horn 
bell?  And,
all other things being relatively equal, what would it tell you about a
flare that rung and rung versus one that seemed dead when you whacked 
it?  You
don't whack a horn to get the sound out.  You vibrate the air column.
If a bell just kept ringing and ringing, would that not actually 
interfere
with attacks, or with notes speaking, when playing runs?  And if not, 
why
not?

I'm sure that a certain amount of "ringing" is probably good for a bell
flare to have, but isn't possible to have too much of a good thing?  I
still haven't puzzled this out, and I sure would appreciate some
enlightenment. No one I've talked with about this can give me a 
satisfactory
explanation, and I'd love to have one.
************
Cabbage says:

Lawson did some studies of how horns sound with annealed and unannealed
flares.  (These were published in the Journal of the Acoustical Society
of America some while ago.)  An annealed flare is one which rings for a
while when you strike it; unannealed flares generally will not.

The article indicates that the tone quality for the two kinds of bells 
was most
different at high dynamic levels.  The difference was a slight one: in 
the annealed
flares, some of the higher frequency harmonics were enhanced by 3 dB or 
so.  The effect was
different for yellow brass bells compared to nickel silver bells.

If the flexibility of the wall material matters, then there are two
influences it could have.   The first is that the walls could flex 
enough to produce
audible sound.  The second is that the walls could flex enough to 
change the
profile of the air column.

I am aware of a study of metal organ pipes which demonstrated the
following: if an organ pipe oscillates strongly enough to make audible 
sound from
the surface, it will also change its profile enough to shift in 
frequency.
This is not desirable, so organ manufacturers make organ pipes stiff 
enough to
prevent it.

How does this relate to the horn?  Here is some background.  When sound
goes from your lips toward the bell, most of it reflects back to the 
lips.
The low frequency parts tend to reflect in the narrow throat of the 
bell; the
higher frequency parts of the sound reflect further out in the wider 
part of
the bell. This means that the bell interacts most strongly with the 
high
frequency harmonics in the sound.

Some more background: as you play louder, the sound level of the 
harmonics
increases.  However, the increase of the higher frequency harmonics is
much greater than the increase of the low frequency harmonics.  (If you
record a horn played quietly and play the recording with the volume 
knob up,
it doesn't sound like a loud horn.)  So the relative spectrum shifts, 
enhancing
the higher frequency harmonics.

Most of the tubing of your horn is too thick and has too small a radius
to oscillate very much.  The situation is different for the bell: it is 
much easier
to bend the bell than (say) the surface of the leadpipe.

So what happens when you play loudly?  The higher frequency parts of the
sound become more significant.  Those are the parts of the sound that
interact with the bell.  As they interact with the bell, the bell can 
oscillate
and produce sound of its own.  I speculate that this sound from the
bell can be audible and therefore contribute to the spectrum.  Unlike 
the
organ pipe, however, the frequency of the horn will not change, since
the playing frequency depends on how the low frequency parts of the 
sound interact with
the narrow throat of the bell, which is not vibrating enough to change 
the
profile of the instrument.

Lawson studied the spectra of the sound produced by horns with annealed
and unannealed flares.  But he did not determine how big the 
oscillations
of the flares were, or whether those oscillations might produce audible 
sound.

Some while ago, I participated in a blind test of a horn played with 
annealed
and unnanealed flares.  (The flares had to be changed in a different 
room:
it is easy to tell by the clanking noises whether someone is putting an
annealed or unnanealed flare on a horn.)  I was able to distinguish the
two kinds of bells.  The difference was slight, but apparent at loud
dynamic levels, when the tone quality of the annealed flares was a 
little
less blatty.  (I apologize for using such obscure scientific 
terminology.)

Still, I think the ringing of the bell is quite a minor aspect of a 
horns sound.
If you play a loud note, then stop abruptly, do you hear the bell 
ringing afterwards?
Probably not.

Gotta go,
Cabbage



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