Aural geniuses among trombone players may be able to play any desired microtonal step at will. Mere mortals trained within the diatonic and chromatic scale system prefer a technique allowing for a very high degree of predictability between slide positions and relative pitches. That technique has a Danish term translatable to something like ear-in-the-arm. A well established technique allows for very fast adjustments, but a well tuned instrument makes performances very much easier. So if I had to play all positions short in a given context, I pushed my main tuning slide in, and long positions made me pull the main tuning slide.
Our tuning standard used to be A=440Hz and my then main instrument could be taken to 443 and no higher. Once I was, in a band, a ringer on 1st trombone, where the solo cornet was allowed to play at A=446Hz. Pure pest. Hans may find that the section players have to adapt to the lead. I will agree in emergency situations, but lead players regularly straying in either pitch direction should not stay lead players for very long. Klaus ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, April 22, 2011 4:43:03 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Temperature & pitch That always reminds me of a really good puzzler that I never quite figured out. I never could figure out any reason other than not listening as to why a good trombone player would ever play out of tune since the whole thing is a tuning slide. Yet, if I had a nickel for every time I heard it I'd probably have close to a hundred dollars or more. Horn players also have an advantage too with the right hand, but right hand usage isn't always taught proficiently. Then again, not many people can figure out how to tune their instruments, either. (Present company excluded, of course) There are also people who don't know how to use the left lane on the highway, how to make popcorn in the microwave, figure out how to research their local politicians, etc. Sometimes you just have to shrug it off and move on. Such is life! -William In a message dated 4/21/2011 10:36:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Yes, we had a caricature of Dr.Karl Boehm as a big turtle & his head, but with the inscription: "It is said, they might live up to 300 years !" Movie "Enemy mine" had a nice reptilian alien, but also nice horn melodies in the sound track reminding to R.Schumann´s Spring Symphony. We recorded that in a rush and ende recording 8 days before the premier. If I recall well, it was by Maurice Jarre. Regarding all that room temp stuff: don´t we have tuning slides to adapt quickly, even during performance. ####################################################################### Am 21.04.2011 um 21:36 schrieb [email protected]: > The only reptilian aliens I know are in front of the orchestra gyrating or > re-enacting their ritualistic mating dance and waving a stick. > > Wes Hatch > > > In a message dated 4/21/2011 1:17:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > That's the advantage of being warm-blooded. If there are reptilian aliens > > out there that play bands - their warm ups would probably be a lot longer > than ours... > > Just joking! > > -William > > > In a message dated 4/21/2011 2:11:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Hi Klaus > >> >> 2. I have no first hand experience with horns, but from my trombone >> experiences >> I know, that an instrument made out of thin gauge red brass is much more >> sensitive to ambient temperature, especially during long rests, than >> instruments >> out of thicker gauge yellow brass. Thickness is a factor as is the heat >> conductivity of the alloy. The thin gauge instrument then also will > raise >> in >> pitch much sooner with continuous playing. >> > > All of this will be about how quickly the air column inside the tubing > heats > up and cools down. > > The interesting thing is that the air coming out of your mouth has a > pretty > constant temperature irrespective of the room temperature. Therefore, the > effect of room temperature on horn tuning is fairly limited, in that of > the > room is cool, your horn and the air inside will cool more quickly. That > effect can be minimised by blowing a lungful of air down the horn towards > the end of a longer rest so that the inside of the horn is more nearly at > boy temperature when you make your next entry. > > Regards > Jonathan West > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/valkhorn%40aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/weshatch%40aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/valkhorn%40aol.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/yorkmasterbbb%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
