Sorry, sorry and sorry again. We, with the Western Medicine School tend to cure symptoms rather than to eliminate the cause/origin of such often "sensations".
What is the origin of such "tremors" ? To exaggerate ones own abilities, such gripping for the apple, who is hanging much to high on the apple tree. Understood ? No. If we take a bite, we cannot digest or digest with a lot of pain. This is one of the causes we meet too often with want to be principals, want to be soloists, want to be sensational, want to play the most challenging pieces, not adequately prepared, the know-it-all but eunuch-people, etc. These people are in-curable nearly. Another cause might be the chemical thing described by Valerie & others, but this cause is often abused by those described above. A good excuse for them. But there is another cause, rather mechanical defect. Holding the horn in a correct manner & free (= not on the hip) for many years, - in my case professionally for 50 years, but just for the Bavarian State Opera appearing in over 8.000 performances & concerts during 40 years including the 4 - 5 hours Wagner operas - , took its toll on my left shoulder, which resulted in terrible pain, causing my left arm to shake unforeseeable as a reflex to this pain. But careful gymnastics, longer walks with the sticks, trecking in the higher mountains, mildered the pain to nearly zero by the time. I was in a state, I could not even fix my suspenders in the back & had to do that before getting my pants on. I had to start put on my dresses starting with the left arm, as I could not use it later finding into the shirts left arm if starting with the right arm. I still do that. And my left arm returned to 90% of working condition. Well, several hours every day writing on the PC or MAC, took its toll also. Now I am back to full power according to my age. Summary, the physical thing comes as first real cause & can be cured, while the psychologic cause is more severe and can be cured more difficulty, first by reducing ones own demand upon oneself. This should address our amateurs or semi professionals before the professionals, who do not have much choice, but have to rethink their position if a less demanding position is getting vacant in their orchestra. This is all said from my heart & according to my long time experience. Chemicals are not any solution nor are food additives, - by the way a big business only -, but we might change our alimentation anyway to find a better life for us & our families (less protein, more plants & fruits, perhaps similar to the alimentation we had here in Europe during the years after WW2 with just a bite of meet on Sundays. Our generation is in much better shape than our grand childrens generation.) ########################################################### Am 30.04.2011 um 17:27 schrieb Milton Kicklighter: > Wow, I seemed to have missed an entire thread. I read Vals post about > tremors and Zinc, and I was wondering what I have missed concerning tremors. > Has there been a special thread about this topic? As some of you know, I > retired because I had developed a thing called "postural tremors" which is > part of what is called essential tremors and which, in my case, causes my > arm and head to occasional shake. They are so mild that the only "life" > thing it affects is my horn playing and then only occasionally. But it did > happen enough to cause me to decide to retire. > > It was diagnosed after a year of Dr. visits, and the final diagnoses was done > while the Dr was watching me play the horn. I had ALL of the test: MRI Cat > Scan and several other nerve continuity test. Nothing out of the ordinary > showed up in any of those test. The Neurologist came to what I will call an > "observational diagnoses" when my head and arm did their shake thing while he > was watching me play. There was and is medication for the tremors, but that > medication was so mind altering that it left me in a fog, and the medication > affected much more of my life style than just my horn playing. In short, as > I had a long and wonderful career I just decided to retire. But I still > wanted to pursue this tremor thing and see if I could find a way to overcome > it. I know there are many younger players out there that just might have > this same condition. As the Dr informed me when I said to him: "This must > be a very rare condition", he > said, "Oh no there are about 65% of the people that have some sort of > essential tremors. And the cause is not fully understood". > > And!!! I am still pursuing a possible solution. I am working with a > wonderful physical therapist who thinks?? that the problem might be in my > neck.... and since I have been working with it is better. Now I will also > add the Zinc thing. It surely can't hurt if I do it in moderation. > > However!!! And this is a big however!! When things like shakes and tremors > and such happen, the FIRST thing one should do is see you Dr.!! There are so > many things that can be wrong, and if there is a REAL medical condition, > then that should be examined first. Just self-diagnosing could be very > dangerous. I did spend almost a year pursuing it with a Dr. First my family > Dr. and then with a Neurologists. > > But that aside, I think it is ok for Val and others to share information > concerning things they have discovered about some these "maladies" we brass > players suffer from as long as it is not presented as THE answer to a > problem. After all we know a great deal, but at the same time, very little > about embouchure destonia. I have been to several lectures concerning that > big one for brass players, and even though a great deal has been learned. it > is one of those "maladies" that we are not 100% sure of the cause nor the > solution. And it seems to be one of those things that brass players suffer > from much more today than in the past. I know that in my career I have only > seen three cases and those in the last ten years. > > I am glad Val mentioned the Zinc thing, and I for one will try it. There is > so much stuff in our food and enviorment today and so much stuff missing, > that we may find solutions to some things the "natural" way. > > DON'T SELF DIAGNOS though. Always see your Dr first. > > > Milton > Milton Kicklighter > 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic > Retired > > From: Steve Haflich <[email protected]> >> To: The Horn List <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:45 AM >> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] unwanted vibrato >> >> This is an unacceptable posting. Valerie should spend some more time >> balancing her embouchure and should not attempt to post medical advice. >> Her post gives specific medical advice, cites an unidentified authority, >> presents unsubstantiated statistics, and provides no references by which >> anyone could substantiate her statements. >> >> Tremors can indicate various medical and/or psychological issues. The >> OP may wish to take these up with his physician, even though it may be >> difficult to get a physician to consider all the evidence and >> particulars of the case within a 20-minute appointment. Diagnosis may >> depend whether the OP is aged 25 or aged 75, which his physician will >> likely know, but about which Valerie doesn't seem to care. >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at >> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
