I think I have stumbled on something. Distance has no effect on pitch, only 
relative motion does.

HOWEVER

What the sound has to travel through before getting to the audience has a great 
deal to do with pitch. Air travels at different speeds through different 
mediums, so thick walls and thick stage matter could have a slight effect on 
when the sound arrives to the audience, and how. The temperature of the medium 
affects the pitch as well, so it's very well possible that the temperature off 
stage could be very different from on stage, due to hot lights, etc. Every time 
I can remember being under a stage or off stage, it was much colder than on 
stage.

-William


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Curt Austin <[email protected]>
To: debeeker <[email protected]>; The Horn List <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 1:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] offstage brass


I didn't think frequency was affected by distance, and I've confirmed this with 
a little online research. A complex sound may sound lower since high 
frequencies 
are attenuated more, but this is an affect on timbre, not pitch. 

If there is a pitch difference, it could be position of the hand - if a horn 
player is standing offstage, he might alter is normal hand position in such a 
way that tends towards flat. Or it could be some psychological affect - 
something that makes us want to play lower pitches when away from the group. 
Maybe we figure we should sound more muffled, and jam our hands in the bell. Or 
we normally force ourselves up a bit without knowing it, but away from the 
group, we lose the connection, and go flat. Or the way onstage musicians 
perceive pitch "at a distance" could be the factor. 

Seemingly, an easy thing to investigate. Interesting.

Curt Austin

On May 29, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Dan Beeker wrote:

> Surely there must be more to it than "because of the distance". Does 
> that mean the listener in the back of the auditorium hears things 
> flatter than the patron in the front row? Loss of higher harmonics due 
> to stage curtains etc. might make it sound flatter (total conjecture on 
> my part). Just curious. Any acoustics people out there have an explanation?
> 
> Dan Beeker
> 
> On 5/29/11 1:00 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 16:22:54 +0200
>> From: Hans Pizka<[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] offstage brass
>> To: The Horn List<[email protected]>
>> Message-ID:<[email protected]>
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>> 
>> Bob, welcome in Germany,
>> 
>> the off stage brass sounds flat to the player on stage because of the 
distance. But it is not much.
>> So the off stage players adjust the main tuning slide a bit, just a bit 
>> (1/4" 
perhaps).
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Hans
> 
> -- 
> Dan Beeker
> 
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