Hi Val. So, TOL is basically the tip of the tongue between the lips, thus 
creating more of a "Thu" sound than "Tu?" For these 4-5 minutes a day of TOL, 
would you recommend free buzzing, or mouthpiece buzzing, or actually playing 
the horn?

-William
 
On Jun 27, 2011, at 5:02 PM, valerie wells wrote:

> William, This is tricky.  About the only thing I could suggest is to try a
> completely different tonguing technique separate and apart from your normal
> playing for a trial period.  You might try tonguing on the lips on simple
> scales, double tonguing exercises and tunes for about 4 or 5 minutes day,
> then forget about it and play your regular way for the rest of the day.  Do
> this consistently over time.  If at any point this tonguing technique sounds
> better than your regular tonguing, then you can apply this technique to all
> your playing.  If not, then ditch this method & try something else.  But
> whatever you do, do it systematically & methodically.  Don't go monkeying
> around with all sorts of new things at once.  Try one method consistently
> over time, then try another one consistently over time to avoid confusion.
> 
> If you're not familiar with tonguing on the lips (TOL), it's a tonguing
> method that involves touching the tip of the tongue to the aperture as if
> you were spitting out a tiny seed or eye lash from the tip of your tongue.
> You can actually learn this technique by spitting out grains of rice between
> your lips.  TOL is used in various forms in various methods (BE, TCE, Suzuki
> flute, etc.) both for a normal tonguing method and for developmental
> purposes.  It can be very helpful especially for developing clean, soft
> attacks in the high register.
> 
> If you're already tonguing this way, try something different, like the more
> traditional tonguing on the back of the teeth.
> 
> About the air tone thing.... I wouldn't have a clue how to help that.  Maybe
> a master teacher like Wendell Rider could help.
> 
> My 2 cents.
> 
> Val
> 
> -- 
> Valerie Wells
> The Balanced Embouchure Method
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> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:38:41 -0400
> From: William Bard <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Hornlist]  Articulation and 'airy' sound issues
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> 
> I've been playing the horn some seven years, having just graduated high
> school, and I will begin attending the Eastman School of Music this fall for
> a degree in Horn Performance. However, before I get up there and start
> school, I really thought I should ask the members of this board for some
> advice on an issue (I think it's an issue...) I've been noticing lately in
> my playing.
> 
> Back in February I had a lesson with Rick Solis out in Cleveland, and he
> pointed out that often times, when I articulate, it sounds almost as though
> the tongue is rebounding, or something is happening to make the tonguing not
> quite so clear and more blatty sounding. I've especially noticed this when I
> play loud or technically difficult passages.
> 
> He and Rich King both pointed out to me in my audition for the Cleveland
> Institute of Music that it was something I really have to work on and fix
> over the next few years; otherwise it could spell big problems for my
> playing. They said it will "hopefully go away" over time, but this still
> really worries me.
> 
> In addition, I can't help but notice an extra sort of buzz to my sound, when
> I play. At times, it is even very airy sounding. I can't figure out yet if
> this is my horn that is vibrating ever so slightly along with the pitches
> I'm playing, or if this is an internal sound that I'm hearing as the note
> vibrates through my mouth and possibly through my teeth, or what the heck
> this is.
> 
> Obviously, when I take the horn away and buzz on the mouthpiece, it's not
> just the sound of the note I hear, as I can also hear the air flow moving
> through the mouthpiece. Is tongue placement or something else possibly
> amplifying the airflow or sound of my buzz, so that it becomes noticeable IN
> ADDITION to the sound of the horn, itself?
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions or advice regarding this? Or, furthermore,
> is this truly an issue, or is it actually somewhat normal? This is really
> puzzling to me and I really hope to get it figured out before it's too late!
> Thanks so much.
> 
> -William Bard
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