The only time I can see to stop a note with the tongue is when a really short and crisp staccato articulation is needed; that is my default when playing Kopprasch. John Ericson discusses it in his blog here:
http://hornmatters.com/2011/02/%E2%80%9Ctut%E2%80%9D-for-a-short-crisp-staccato/ Ben ________________________________ From: Milton Kicklighter <[email protected]> To: The Horn List <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 8:52:03 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Articulation and 'airy' sound issues Sorry Guys, I can't figure out how to delete the first part of the message I am replying to. I could use some help on this. When I highlight the part I want to delete so as to shorten the message and click delete the entire message is deleted. You will just have to scroll down on this one. Duddddddddd Val, this ending the note with a T is one thing I really really disagree with. Stopping the note with any action of the tongue... especially T... causes a terrible "UT" sound at the end of the note. I know that a very famous Met horn player taught this to some of his students... one of those students was one of mine and it created an awful ending sound to the note.... It took her a lot of relearning from another teacher... Paul Ingram... to undo that damage. I don't know just how to explain it, but we stop the note very much... if not exactly... like a singer. We just stop the note by controlling the air and don't need to close off anything or interrupt the air flow with the tongue. Can you imagine what a singer would sound like by closing off their throat to stop a note. The only exception to this... maybe... is when you are doing very rapid single tonguing and the next t needs to be in place to start the next note. But, when that takes place the T is starting the next note not stopping the last note. But never never to stop a note by using t or any syllable for that matter. This one I am adamant about!! I actually tried doing that for a short time a few years back.... this very same famous Met player and teacher was pushing it... but it did not take long to realize what a bad note ending it caused. Now everyone who disagrees can send the flames :( But on this one I feel 100% I am correct. Well except for those few "weird" :) ones that can do "anything" on the horn anyway they want. Milton Milton Kicklighter 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic Retired ________________________________ From: valerie wells <[email protected]> To: horn list 2 memphis <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 10:33:53 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Articulation and 'airy' sound issues Wendell Rider teaches this. It works great. You start and stop the note with the "T"...or a "D" for a softer attack & release. Jerome Callet, the renowned trumpeter & trumpet builder, insists that every note should be started & stopped with the tongue. Valerie Wells The Balanced Embouchure Method http://bebabe.wordpress.com/ http://www.beforhorn.blogspot.com/ ------------------- My God, you made me think about something I haven't thought about in years.? I think??? that I use to to to.. or maybe two two two :)? Actually I do think I use to to and tu tu tu.? The thing I DON'T do... ?and I know some are an advocate of this... ?is to put a t at the end of the?tonguing.? Like tut tut tut.? If you are really trying to do very rapid single tonguing, then I suppose the tut tut is kind of natural.? Maybe???? ? Milton Milton Kicklighter 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic Retired _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/corno42%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
