There are some strange figures operating out of hotel rooms now in Italy. A lot of them are coming from recently opened up former communist Balkan countries plus Bulgaria & Rumania. They do all kind of criminal actions, special internet fraud. We received a TV story about that recently here in Germany, including a strong warning. These people change their operating place frequently. Beware of dealing with them. Real brokers would reveal their identity & give you their address. =========================================================
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Cole Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:39 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Your opinions please The way the scam works is like this: The guy says he'll have a friend or agent pick up the horn from you (to save expensive international shipping costs) & at the same time the friend or agent will present payment to you in the form of a certified check drawn on a USA bank. Sounds OK, right? The weenie is that the scam buyer will tell you he owes some money to the friend or agent who's picking up the horn, so the cashier's check will be for more than the price of your horn. The scam buyer asks you to pay the difference to the friend or agent, in cash. You may feel queazy about that, dealing with strangers & all, but you're getting a cashier's check, so reluctantly you go ahead. So you hand over your horn & the cash in exchange for the cashier's check. You start feeling better when your bank accepts the cashier's check & hands you a cash total covering the price of your horn plus that extra amount you paid to the stranger who picked up your horn. Just when you start to relegate the whole transaction to history, you receive a notice from your bank informing you the cashier's check was bogus & thus you owe the bank the total amount of the bogus check. Your horn is gone. The extra cash is gone. The strangers are gone. Plus, there's nothing you can do. I'd say PayPal or cash is the only way to go. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 10:19 AM 12/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: >I've recently listed my Elkhart 8d on Hornplayer.net. This morning I >received this response: >"Hello, I'm interested in making a purchase of your musical instrument >found on the posted ads on www.hornplayer.net .I'm a broker,based in Italy >and I have a client interested in your musical instrument, please tell me >the final price you want for it and if it's still available.Please let me >know if payment by check is ok. >Please reply urgent >Regards!" >They havn't even seen a photo. What are your thoughts? >Are the cultural differences such that this letter only seems stupid? Or >does this "broker" think that I'm stupid? > >I'm considering telling them I will only accept paypal. Please let me know >what you think! > >Thanks, Charles >______________________ _______________________________________________ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de _______________________________________________ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
