william bamberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked: "Are you saying that the Alex takes twice as much effort as the 8D?"
No, that's not what I'm saying! Sorry I wasn't clear about that! What I meant was exactly the opposite, that the 8D takes twice as much effort as the Alex, especially in the high range because it has remarkably little resistance. Steven Slaff ----- Original Message ----- From: william bamberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2004 3:16 am Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Good Non-Conns > Are you saying that the Alex takes twice as much effort as the 8D? > Normally I would recommend the Reynolds Chambers clone of the 8D > because > of its great tone and especially for its high efficiency. If > you're > leaning towards an Alex, there is a very rare, and mostly unknown, > Holton model 77 presently on eBay that might well go for less than > $500. > This is the original Farkas model from the sixties. This horn > would > fit into a Geyer section and be very effective for ensemble > playing. > Hang on to the 8D in case you have to play in a 'big' horn > section. The > trick to easily switching horns is to spend a lot of time tuning > all the > valve combinations so the lipping requirements are as close as > possible > on the two horns. Don't be surprised if you suddenly find your > accuracy > greatly improved on the horn you've been playing for years. You > might > be surprised how out of tune you've learned to accommodate through > years > of practice. Do it with an electronic tuner sensitive enough to > tell > you exactly how far you're lipping each note to be in tune. > Center each > note with your eyes closed so you can see exactly where the horn > wants > to play it. This is especially important for matching a Bb horn > or > descant horn to your main instrument. For the Bb or descant, an F > attachment is more important than a stopping valve. Have a crook > made > However, a stopping valve is a legitimate 2nd valve when using the > F > attachment. > > Steven Slaff wrote on 9/7/2004, 5:40 PM: > > > Hello, > > > > Partially with the advice of my teacher, I am considering > purchasing a > > new horn -- My current Conn 8D really isn't cutting it. > > > > What horns do you all recommend that have a big and mellow, yet > clear > sound, but play well -- I'm looking for something with a > bit more > > resistance than my current Conn, I've tried playing my > teacher's Alex, > > and when I blow into that it takes half the effort to make the same > > sound on my Conn!!! > > > > Any recommendations are appreciated! > > Thanks very much!!! > > Steven Slaff > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2004 6:30 pm > > Subject: [Hornlist] Elkhart Conn 8d or Yamaha 667V or Alexander 103 > > > > > I'm trying to decide on which horn I'll be purchasing in the near > > > future and > > > was wondering what all of your opinions are on these particular > > > horns. I > > > know they are about as opposite as you can get, but I've > played on > > > newer Conn > > > 8Ds and a Yamaha 867(similar to 667V), and liked how they both > > > played. The > > > Yamaha was a free-blowing horn that played very nicely I thought. > > > The Conns > > > played well, but I'm interested in trying an older Elkhart model > > > to see if there > > > is a bigger difference in the playing characteristics. If any of > > > you have had > > > any experience with playing the newer and older 8Ds and what > their > > > > > differences are, please write in. I've never played an Alexander > > > 103, but I do know > > > that they are a reputable horn in Europe and the sound that the > > > European horn > > > sections produce using them, is quite satisfactory.To give > you a > > > little bit of > > > background info on where I currently stand as a horn player, here > > > ya go: I'm > > > a senior in high school, and will be attending one of the major > > > southeastern > > > universities next year to most likely major in music. I do play > > > principal > > > horn in the local youth orchestra and principal horn in the wind > > > symphony at > > > Sebastian River High School in Sebastian, FL. So this horn will > > > need to last me > > > through my college years and hopefully into my > > > amateur/professional career. > > > Any advice on any horn would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > > Jason > > > _______________________________________________ > > > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > unsubscribe or set options at > > > > > > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steven.slaff%40oberlin.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > unsubscribe or set options at > > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steven.slaff%40oberlin.edu _______________________________________________ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org