william bamberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked:
"Are you saying that the Alex takes twice as much effort as the 8D?"

No, that's not what I'm saying! Sorry I wasn't clear about that! What I meant was 
exactly the opposite, that the 8D takes twice as much effort as the Alex, especially 
in the high range because it has remarkably little resistance.

Steven Slaff

----- Original Message -----
From: william bamberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2004 3:16 am
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Good Non-Conns

> Are you saying that the Alex takes twice as much effort as the 8D? 
> Normally I would recommend the Reynolds Chambers clone of the 8D 
> because 
> of its great tone and especially for its high efficiency.  If 
> you're 
> leaning towards an Alex, there is a very rare, and mostly unknown, 
> Holton model 77 presently on eBay that might well go for less than 
> $500. 
>  This is the original Farkas model from the sixties.  This horn 
> would 
> fit into a Geyer section and be very effective for ensemble 
> playing. 
> Hang on to the 8D in case you have to play in a 'big' horn 
> section.  The 
> trick to easily switching horns is to spend a lot of time tuning 
> all the 
> valve combinations so the lipping requirements are as close as 
> possible 
> on the two horns.  Don't be surprised if you suddenly find your 
> accuracy 
> greatly improved on the horn you've been playing for years.  You 
> might 
> be surprised how out of tune you've learned to accommodate through 
> years 
> of practice.  Do it with an electronic tuner sensitive enough to 
> tell 
> you exactly how far you're lipping each note to be in tune.  
> Center each 
> note with your eyes closed so you can see exactly where the horn 
> wants 
> to play it.  This is especially important for matching a Bb horn 
> or 
> descant horn to your main instrument.  For the Bb or descant, an F 
> attachment is more important than a stopping valve.  Have a crook 
> made 
> However, a stopping valve is a legitimate 2nd valve when using the 
> F 
> attachment.
> 
> Steven Slaff wrote on 9/7/2004, 5:40 PM:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > Partially with the advice of my teacher, I am considering 
> purchasing a
> > new horn -- My current Conn 8D really isn't cutting it.
> >
> > What horns do you all recommend that have a big and mellow, yet 
> clear > sound, but play well -- I'm looking for something with a 
> bit more
> > resistance than my current Conn, I've tried playing my 
> teacher's Alex,
> > and when I blow into that it takes half the effort to make the same
> > sound on my Conn!!!
> >
> > Any recommendations are appreciated!
> > Thanks very much!!!
> > Steven Slaff
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2004 6:30 pm
> > Subject: [Hornlist] Elkhart Conn 8d or Yamaha 667V or Alexander 103
> >
> > > I'm trying to decide on which horn I'll be purchasing in the near
> > > future  and
> > > was wondering what all of your opinions are on these particular
> > > horns. I
> > > know they are about as opposite as you can get, but I've 
> played on
> > > newer Conn
> > > 8Ds and a Yamaha 867(similar to 667V), and liked how they both
> > > played. The
> > > Yamaha was a free-blowing horn that played very nicely I thought.
> > > The Conns
> > > played well, but I'm interested in trying an older Elkhart model
> > > to see if there
> > > is a bigger difference in the playing characteristics. If any of
> > > you have had
> > > any experience with playing the newer and older 8Ds and what 
> their > >
> > > differences are, please write in. I've never played an Alexander
> > > 103, but I do  know
> > > that they are a reputable horn in Europe and the sound that the
> > > European  horn
> > > sections produce using them, is quite satisfactory.To give 
> you a
> > > little bit  of
> > > background info on where I currently stand as a horn player, here
> > > ya  go: I'm
> > > a senior in high school, and will be attending one of the major
> > > southeastern
> > > universities next year to most likely major in music. I  do play
> > > principal
> > > horn in the local youth orchestra and principal horn in the  wind
> > > symphony at
> > > Sebastian River High School in Sebastian, FL. So this horn will
> > > need to last me
> > > through my college years and hopefully into my
> > > amateur/professional career.
> > > Any advice on any horn would be greatly  appreciated.   Thanks.
> > >      Jason
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