The slurs & dots added later come from performance tradition, most handed down by mouth to mouth tradition (meaning of tradire = lat.) special in Vienna, where the concertos were written. The first complete edition of K495 is by Art et Industrie publications in Vienna according to the autograph, which was in Leutgeb´s hands for the greater part. The tradition was handed downb to Martin Rupp, the Lewy brothers, Richard Lewy, Schantl, Richter, Stiegler & Freiberg, just to name a line. And the bows & dots follow the violins & are influenced by our language & the singing tradition. This might be difficult to understand by non-German speakers.
But if you like to stick to the ur-text (like the autograph), continue in the clumsiness, while Mozart trusted his friends (most were horn players in Vienna) & their skill & experience & taste. ================================================================== > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- > Von: "Bill Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: "'The Horn List'" <horn@music.memphis.edu> > Betreff: RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Concerto Editions > Datum: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:42:44 -0600 > > Just a follow up to Hans' statement below. If the original published > version (is that the correct interpretation of ur-text?) of the concertos > did not include "slurs & dots we are used too" how did they end up in > current publications? Are they from individuals who heard the original > performances or are they from later performances that became accepted as > standard interpretations? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 4:18 PM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Concerto Editions > > HENLE Verlag in Munich has all four concertos in urtext, as far as there > is > urtext (K412 , K447, K417 are existant except slow movement of K417 > missing. > K495 is existant just from middle of 2nd mov to end & middle of third mov. > until the end. But there is the first Viennese publication of K.495, where > Joseph Leutgeb took part obviously (as he had the missing parts). > > The urtext publications dont have the slurs & dots we are used too. > > > _______________________________________________ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net > > > _______________________________________________ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de > -- Lust, ein paar Euro nebenbei zu verdienen? Ohne Kosten, ohne Risiko! Satte Provisionen für GMX Partner: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/partner _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
