So it begs the question, which modern non ur-text edition is most faithful to this original publication?
Chris --- Hans Pizka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The slurs & dots added later come from performance tradition, most handed > down by mouth to mouth tradition (meaning of tradire = lat.) special in > Vienna, where the concertos were written. The first complete edition of K495 > is by Art et Industrie publications in Vienna according to the autograph, > which was in Leutgeb�s hands for the greater part. The tradition was handed > downb to Martin Rupp, the Lewy brothers, Richard Lewy, Schantl, Richter, > Stiegler & Freiberg, just to name a line. And the bows & dots follow the > violins & are influenced by our language & the singing tradition. This might > be difficult to understand by non-German speakers. > > But if you like to stick to the ur-text (like the autograph), continue in > the clumsiness, while Mozart trusted his friends (most were horn players in > Vienna) & their skill & experience & taste. > > ================================================================== > > --- Urspr�ngliche Nachricht --- > > Von: "Bill Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > An: "'The Horn List'" <horn@music.memphis.edu> > > Betreff: RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Concerto Editions > > Datum: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:42:44 -0600 > > > > Just a follow up to Hans' statement below. If the original published > > version (is that the correct interpretation of ur-text?) of the concertos > > did not include "slurs & dots we are used too" how did they end up in > > current publications? Are they from individuals who heard the original > > performances or are they from later performances that became accepted as > > standard interpretations? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 4:18 PM > > To: The Horn List > > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Concerto Editions > > > > HENLE Verlag in Munich has all four concertos in urtext, as far as there > > is > > urtext (K412 , K447, K417 are existant except slow movement of K417 > > missing. > > K495 is existant just from middle of 2nd mov to end & middle of third mov. > > until the end. But there is the first Viennese publication of K.495, where > > Joseph Leutgeb took part obviously (as he had the missing parts). > > > > The urtext publications dont have the slurs & dots we are used too. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > > unsubscribe or set options at > > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > > unsubscribe or set options at > > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de > > > > -- > Lust, ein paar Euro nebenbei zu verdienen? Ohne Kosten, ohne Risiko! > Satte Provisionen f�r GMX Partner: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/partner > _______________________________________________ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
