I agree with Dave Weiner to a point.  The scary thing is that there are way 
too many shops in this country (not Dave's!) who will destroy your horn in the 
process of getting that green crud out of there.  I personally have known 
people who would put a horn in Brite Dip (powerful acid) and then go to lunch.  
Cleaning that green stuff out takes time/patience and/or expensive equipment.  
I just got an eBay horn that the repairman-seller was very proud of.  
Everything, slides,valves etc. is loose and leaky from the Brite Dip.  It 
doesn't play at all.
    So my point is, buyer beware!  Find a repair tech who truly understands 
that french horns aren't supposed to leak, and who's willing to take the time 
to do it right.  I'd stick with the green if the other choice was getting my 
horn boiled into nothingness in acid.  Acids can be used, but shouldn't be 
overused.

- Steve Mumford

Just for reference:
Chemical clean =  acid (usually)
toilet bowl cleaner = acid
Lime-a-Way  = acid
Vinegar  = acid

acids need to be neutralized if used on a horn, or the green just comes back 
better than ever. 


  



>message: 7
>date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:32:30 -0800 (PST)
>from: Larry Jellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>subject: [Hornlist] Brass interior green
>
>Having played nickel silver horns all my life, now I
>have a brass horn.  Some of the interior piping is
>coated with the green copper oxide.  If this oxidation
>layer is firmly attached (say after cleaning with
>detergent and a snake), is it okay to leave?  Or is
>all the green supposed to be removed (as part of
>normal maintenance on brass horns)?  Thanks in advance
>for your advice.
>Larry
>
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>message: 8
>date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:26:34 EST
>from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>subject: Re: [Hornlist] Brass interior green
>
>In a message dated 12/12/2006 5:33:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Having played nickel silver horns all my life, now I
>have a brass horn.  Some of the interior piping is
>coated with the green copper oxide.  If this oxidation
>layer is firmly attached (say after cleaning with
>detergent and a snake), is it okay to leave?  Or is
>all the green supposed to be removed (as part of
>normal maintenance on brass horns)?  Thanks in advance
>for your advice.
>--
>You should have that build up removed.  It is mostly calcium carbonate, and
>not only can be an abrasive inside your horn but also reduces the inside
>diameter of the tubing, causing intonation problems.  Detergent and snakes 
>will not
>remove this very hard crust.
>
>Dave Weiner
>Brass Arts Unlimited

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