Steve,
        In the 30s, 40s, and 50s, there was (so far as I know) a tendency to
play with a darker sound and with contact at 9:00 and loosely open at 3:00.
Also, many people hold the horn free now, but a long time ago, it almost
always rested on the thigh--you can't easily hold it free at 9:00. I have a
Geyer  (built in 1938 or 39) that went through many many seasons at the
CSO--it was Wedgewood's (who was my teacher) and which had a patch at 8:00
when I got it, and which bell had gotten so thin at the area of 9:00 that on
Steve Lewis' recommendation I had the entire interior of the bell silver
plated.  Was there any difference in sound?  None that I could detect.

        Shel

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    Here's a question, perhaps for some of the older members on the list.  I
do a lot of work on horns that are 60 - 100 years old and there's one thing
I often see that always makes me scratch my head and wonder.
    If there's a patched hole in the bell flare, it always seems to be on
the opposite side from where I'd expect it to be.  For instance, I just got
in a 90 year old Kruspe and if you look in the end of the bell with the
leadpipe pointing up, the patch is at about 9:30 (o'clock).  Now I can't
find any hand position that I could wear the bell out there, other than just
putting the palm of my hand there and holding the horn with it. 
    Anyway, I keep seeing the 9:00 patch on these older horns, and these are
often horns that were played by people with very good professional jobs.
So, was there a hand position used in the "old days" that I don't know
about?  Anybody remember something that their teacher's teacher's teacher
mentioned about it?  
    The upside is, now I can play the horn for another 90 years with my hand
on the 3:00 side before I wear that side of the bell out!

- Steve Mumford  
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