Unfortunately, Brass Bow near Chicago is no longer in business. Since Wayne 
left I guess they weren't able to keep their customer base, which is a shame, 
because they still were doing excellent work.> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:05:25 
-0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Pro horn cleaning 
question> To: horn@music.memphis.edu> > I would suggest an ultrasonic cleaning 
as done by Ken Pope or the Brass bow and now most certainly by other 
technicians. It does not use chemicals and removes more crud than a chemclean. 
I know you said not to suggest it, but if chemical cleaning hasn't made you 
happy then I would seek something different. The cost has been getting very 
close to that of a normal cleaning, and more and more techs are doing it. 
Alternatively, Reka [http://www.reka-web.com/english/] sells excellent products 
as does Hornflush [http://www.hornflush.com/]. They make it very easy for 
anyone to do at home, provided they take a little care and pay attention to the 
process.> Understand too that if you have let the horn go awhile, when it 
[comes back all clean inside it will play more like new. I remember being given 
my high schools' first double horn all new in the fall and in the early spring 
[only 7-8 months later] cleaning it in my bathtub. Thank goodness I had done it 
several weeks before solo festival because even then it played very differently 
- I had acclimated to the changes in resistance over time and had not realized 
that I was doing so. > Paxmaha> > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Scott 
Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Hi everybody,> My horn needs to be cleaned out but 
I am procrastinating because > every time I get it cleaned out it comes back 
not to my liking. Once > it got bright dipped and it came back a strange lime 
color and I was > told by a horn maker that it reduces the life of the horn > 
significantly. Once it wasn't cleaned out well and you could tell > there was 
grit left in the valves. Ow. By the way please don't > suggest ultrasonic 
cleaning. Maybe some other time...> I have a couple of questions:> 1) How much 
would it cost me to buy the chemicals for the repairman > so I can make sure 
they are clean and pure when used on my horn?> 2) How difficult or dangerous 
would it be for someone of average > ability to do the job? I can take the 
valves apart and put them back > together and take out small dents.> I 
appreciate any information you could give me, on the list or off.> > Scott> > 
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