Hi Carl - I've had the opportunity to play around with the (yet to be released) version of Celemony that works on complex chords. It does a fantastic job on *some* material. Particularly, it works on a mix where there a few voices. When you get to even a chamber orchestra or small ensemble sized group, the complexity gets to be a little much for it.
I have a few of these tools including "Autotune" (the original voice fixer) and a few others. The most advanced and most capable I've seen is the one that comes with Magix Sequoia (the Digital Audio Workstation I use.) Sadly, Sequoia alone is $3,000, but this auto-tuner works great in that you can literally draw the correct pitch in (I do this with a tablet and pen like many graphic artists use.) Many of the other programs either do it automatically or the resolution at which you "draw" isn't very hot. I can honestly say that I would NEVER (for emphasis...not anger) use an auto-tuner on an acoustic instrument. First, simply put, I can always hear when this has been done. Regardless of what the software does to the sound (which, btw, it accomplishes this by changing the digital sampling rate in opposition to its reference), most of the time, the slight pitch variance that is normal on a real instrument is just zapped out or poorly drawn back in. In Kendall's example, he was doing it for a jingle. I suppose the recording engineer could be spared his life for the travesty of auto-tuning a horn player, but only this once. One thing you'll find amongst any of the top symphonic audio engineers is that all of them (and I do mean *all*) HATE (again, emphasis, not anger) the phrase "We'll fix it in the mix." What we do is as much an art, science and passion as playing the horn. It's extremely difficult but that's why we like to do it. Moving a pair of microphones 1" in a hall can make the difference between a fantastic sound going to tape or a crappy sound going to tape (and yes, I mean hard drive for those digital guys out there, but "to tape" is still the expression :-)) "Fixing it in the mix" is a horrible cop-out and the sign of a true amateur recording engineer. We strive to make the recording sound perfect in the same way that us as horn players strive to make the performance perfect. Of course, perfection, in the ears of the musician, is always subjective. Cheers! Jeremy -----Original Message----- From: Carl Ek [mailto:car...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:29 PM To: Hornlist memphis Subject: [Hornlist] Studio Recording magick Dear Hornlisters.... Regarding studio recordings and tweaking sounds, there are some amazing tools out there for manipulating tones and isolating individual notes from recorded multiphonics. Add to the "mix" some drag and drop plugins for your horns/strings/voice and you too can HACK together a movie score. http://www.celemony.com http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=demoaudio << demo soundbytes Regards, Carl Ek Oxtongue Lake, Canada _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jeremy%40sublymerecords.com _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
