Hello Robson,

No, the Bb alto horn is very limited below the top of the staff- it is generally used above written high G.
Almost everything below that requires a regular Bb horn.

I have a Bb/Bb alto model 60, made by Paxman and have found very little use for it besides the Neruda and some other baroque concertos, and a few other symphonic compositions, like the Haydn symphomy #51.

Paul Navarro

-----Original Message-----
From: Robson Adabo de Mello <robson.ad...@gmail.com>
To: The Horn List <horn@music.memphis.edu>
Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda

Is there anybody here that has ever tried a Bb/bb horn? I know that Paxman
and Finke have a Bb/bb (both model 60).

Once I heard that the Eb high horns that Engelbert is producing are better because the high Eb is not so different from the Bb like the high F, so it's possible to have more uniform transition. Is it possible to use the Bb/bb as
a double horn or the difference between Bb and bb is to big to make it
possible?

Did he played everything on the high Bb side of the horn?
Robson

2009/4/25 David A. Jewell <paxm...@yahoo.com>

that's my understanding of the Paxman instrument.  As an aside, Barry
Tuckwell recorded the Zelenka Capriccios on the same model instrument.
Paxmaha




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From: Steve Freides <steve.frei...@gmail.com>
To: The Horn List <horn@music.memphis.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda

Paul, does that mean it had a low Bb side that's the same as the Bb
side of a standard double, and then another Bb side that's one octave
higher, which is what people here have, I think, been calling Bb
soprano?

Thanks.

-S-

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:26 PM,  <corno...@aol.com> wrote:
> I went to Ifor James for coaching when I was working on the Neruda
concerto.
>
> He recorded it on a Paxman Bb/ Bb alto horn.
>
> Paul Navarro
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Dutton <dutto...@gmail.com>
> To: horn@music.memphis.edu
> Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 4:50 pm
> Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda
>
> The Ifor James recording is very nice.  The liner notes state the
> Neruda was recorded on a high Bb horn. It could be played on any
horn
> that one could get the desired tone color from. Using a shorter
horn
> doesn't make it easier to hit a note, it just shifts the partials
> further apart. The piece can be played on an f alto horn and it
could
> be played on a normal Bb single (5.5 feet long more or less).  Long
> story short is that if you don't have the chops to play that high
with
> a good sound then a shorter horn isn't going to help.
>
> Ifor James was a monster of a player and musician. For many years
he
> played a single Bb horn of one type or another.  He stated that he
> played the horn because he could not sing and that if he could sing
he
> would never have played the horn. The Neruda was recorded 10
February
> 1987 and no doubt on 1/2" tape.
>
> The Jack Attack!
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