Professor Hans I'm sure the high register can be played on a high bb horn (I believe it's gonna sound very similar to the high side of a Bb/bb horn). What about the "low" register? Does it have a nice even below the top of the staff.
Thanks I'm asking because Paul said the following "Hello Robson, No, the Bb alto horn is very limited below the top of the staff- it is generally used above written high G. Almost everything below that requires a regular Bb horn. I have a Bb/Bb alto model 60, made by Paxman and have found very little use for it besides the Neruda and some other baroque concertos, and a few other symphonic compositions, like the Haydn symphomy #51. Paul Navarro" 2009/5/1 Prof.Hans Pizka <h...@pizka.de> > Yes, off course, but not much other use for this kind of a ??horn??. > Playing > this horn is no fun. One has to use a complete different mouthpiece (flat > cup, broader rim) to make it sound pleasantly. Yes, it can sound very nice > then. But you will not be able to play Mozarts "Figaro" the next day, > because the normal embouchure will be gone. > > Do not believe, you could play higher than normal with this kind of horns. > You just be safer in the high region & the sound will be much thinner than > normal, - but that´s what is required for Neruda & Pokorny. If one does not > have the chops to play up to concert bb2 on the regular double (that´s the > Bb written atop the first ledger line above the staff - piano notation !!), > this tiny horn will not make it. I mean, not just squeaking out the note > occasionally, but play it as a perfect tuned note in the desired dynamic > etc. Repeated: it is not enough just producing these top notes occasionally > - at home in the bathroom, but on the concert platform with (nearly) > guarantee not to break them. > > And these kind of music is not written for the amateur. > Last argument: is such kind of music worth the investment ? For two > concerts > ? > Isn´t it much better, to leave these concertos to the trumpet players ? Why > not ? They can play them very nicely, perhaps using a "fluegelhorn". It is > not a sacrilege nor a shame. It is also no shame to decline an offer to > play > such extreme high concertos or cantatas. > > People try these tiny beasts & risk to ruin their embouchure, as they try > to > compensate the missing overtones by playing effort, which destroys the > embouchure in the short run. We know a lot of victims. > > > ============================================================================ > ================================= > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: horn-bounces+hans=pizka...@music.memphis.edu > [mailto:horn-bounces+hans <horn-bounces%2Bhans>=pizka...@music.memphis.edu] > Im Auftrag von Robson > Adabo de Mello > Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Mai 2009 03:36 > An: The Horn List > Betreff: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda > > I believe it could also be played with this tiny horn > > > http://p30983.typo3server.info/fileadmin/images/bilddatenbank/diskanthoerner > /mod_99.jpg > > Robson > > P.S. It's an Alexander model 99 (high bb) > > 2009/4/30 Robson Adabo de Mello <robson.ad...@gmail.com> > > > I believe it could also be played with this tiny horn > > > > Robson > > > > P.S. It's an Alexander model 99 (high bb) > > > > 2009/4/28 John.N Ward <john_n_w...@hotmail.com> > > > >> > >> Lawrence > >> > >> My ex. wife and her new husband still do. > >> > >> I still repair and sell horns if they come my way. > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> John. > >> > >> > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:05:32 +0100 > >> > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda > >> > From: yateslawre...@googlemail.com > >> > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > >> > > >> > Thanks John. > >> > > >> > By the way - are you still running the Horn Exchange? I used to get > >> lists > >> > from you every year but I don't remember having anything for a while. > >> > > >> > Cheers, > >> > > >> > Lawrence > >> > > >> > 2009/4/28 John.N Ward <john_n_w...@hotmail.com> > >> > > >> > > > >> > > Lawrence > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > from my time at Paxmans during that period > >> > > > >> > > I'm sure that is what happened > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Cheers > >> > > > >> > > John Ward > >> > > > >> > > > Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:49:48 +0100 > >> > > > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda > >> > > > From: yateslawre...@googlemail.com > >> > > > To: hans.pi...@t-online.de; horn@music.memphis.edu > >> > > > CC: > >> > > > > >> > > > I heard a story about the recording of the Zelenka - > >> > > > > >> > > > WARNING: I have absolutely no evidence to support or substantiate > >> thIs > >> > > story > >> > > > and I offer it as an amusing anecdote which may or may not be as > >> true as > >> > > any > >> > > > other amusing anecdote doing the rounds. I cannot even remember > who > >> told > >> > > me > >> > > > this. > >> > > > > >> > > > Anyway, the story was that Mr. Tuckwell took the high horn on > >> approval > >> > > from > >> > > > Paxmans with a view to buying it, recorded the Zelenka, possibly > the > >> only > >> > > > piece in the world for which he might need such an instrument, > then > >> took > >> > > it > >> > > > back. > >> > > > > >> > > > Maybe someone from Paxmans or anyone closer to the events could > >> > > substantiate > >> > > > or repudiate this? > >> > > > > >> > > > Cheers, > >> > > > > >> > > > Lawrence > >> > > > -- > >> > > > Lawrenceyates.co.uk <http://lawrenceyates.co.uk/> < > http://lawrenceyates.co.uk/> > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > >> > > > unsubscribe or set options at > >> > > > >> > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/john_n_ward%40hotmail.com > >> > > > >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > > Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/____________________________ > ___________________ > >> > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > >> > > unsubscribe or set options at > >> > > > >> > > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yateslawrence%40googlemail.co > m > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Lawrenceyates.co.uk <http://lawrenceyates.co.uk/> < > http://lawrenceyates.co.uk/> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > >> > unsubscribe or set options at > >> > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/john_n_ward%40hotmail.com > >> > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. > >> > >> > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/____________________________ > ___________________ > >> post: horn@music.memphis.edu > >> unsubscribe or set options at > >> http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/robson.adabo%40gmail.com > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de > > _______________________________________________ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/robson.adabo%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
