Agreed.

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On 20/12/2013 01:44, Nick Allen wrote:
I'm not sure. You could well be right about 'tarps', & I think in some places materials such as corrugated iron sheets have been reused. What was once extensive tree cover obscuring buildings is now fairly open ground, so in some cases the outline has changed purely because we can now see the whole structure.

Nick

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On 20/12/13 01:33, Jonathan wrote:
Thanks Nick, that was a helpful kickstart. The one query I still have is are all the blue structures tents? As you say, most have appeared where there was once a building and in some cases they are alongside. I've not tagged any as tents as most seem to be in place of a building or as well as a building so I wonder wether they are "tarps" that have been draped over ruins or damage? So I've simply marked the building as damaged.

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On 20/12/2013 00:18, Nick Allen wrote:
Hi,

Having just completed one of the squares for this task, a few notes which may help (It's not easy, so be prepared to take your time & do your best);

If using JOSM, load not only the imagery linked to the task, but also Bing or whatever imagery was first used. By hiding the different layers you can then compare the before (Bing?) & after imagery to see how the building has changed.

Alignment - slightly different to the existing tracing. As usual no gps traces available, but always worth trying.

History - Be prepared to look at the history of buildings - on my square someone had been creating new buildings using the post disaster imagery 12 hours before I started - they were only tagged as building=yes, so it took me a few minutes of investigation to work out what had been done (Ctrl+h in JOSM will bring up the history of a selected node or way).

Tents - I'm fairly certain that at least two of the buildings added 12 hours ago are actually tents - they are on the site of old buildings or nearby, but are a completely different outline. I've done a search on the wiki, but nobody seems to have been mentioning tagging them before - I've tagged mine 'building=tent' until someone comes up with a better scheme.

Nick

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On 19/12/13 03:06, Banick, Robert wrote:
Hello All,

Greetings from Manila.

As efforts to alleviate the damages from Typhoon Haiyan / Yolanda in the Philippines shift from response to recovery the need for detailed, precise information about damages and recovery rates has become more pressing. Agencies are still investing lots in mass-distribution style emergency shelter relief but are already looking at the next stage of "supporting self-recovery" activities and the eventual move towards permanent shelter solutions.

One of the more affected municipalities in Haiyan's path is Carles, on the Northeastern tip of Panay Island. Much like the islands of neighboring municipality Estancia to the south, the exposed islands of Carles and the buildings along its shores were hit hard by the typhoon. Survivors are doing an inspiring job of putting their lives in order and moving on but the need for assistance and support is still real. We've create a task to support this process at: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/392

To support that assistance process we'd like to assess the damages at a building-by-building level. Our hope is to better target assistance from aid agencies in the area, track reconstruction progress at a building level and verify the accuracy of these assessments through OSM for future work.

Thanks to the continued generosity of the U.S. State Department, we've been able to procure post-disaster imagery for the municipality of Carles on the northeast tip of Panay Island. Please download the imagery into your editing software of choice and be sure to insert the necessary tags to recognize the NextView license's part in the data so created.

Many thanks to all of you for your contributions and continued support. I cannot speak enough to how well received OSM is by government, NGOs and companies alike here. This operation represents a huge leap forward in terms of the credibility and recognition of OSM for disaster response purposes.

Best,
Robert


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