I completely agree with Severin with the risks of mapping sensitive information. About the information HOT have been asked for, is it the information before crisis or now? I wonder if some roads info (closed/open) might be also sensitive. We have to check.
But I think that the populated places can be mapped without risk and could be a very useful starting point. I'm also out of the country for a few days. So I can't work on it seriously before next week. Best On 18 Apr 2014 02:39, "Joseph Reeves" <iknowjos...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear all, > > I've not looked at Syria mapping in any coordinated manner for a while > now, but there is some areas that we could start on; I've been thinking > about starting some Task Manager jobs for a while now as Bing imagery has > improved (I've not looked at the result of the recent MapBox / DigitalGlobe > / iD announcement). > > HOT have been asked to trace population centres, roads and POIs such as > places of worship. I think we can still do this without creating the risks > that Sev has previously mentioned. I understand that this might not be > getting the most from Syrian mappers interested, but I think it's a good > starting place for now.There are some other jobs that would be really > useful, such as matching existing OSM place names to visible towns / > villages on the imagery - a lot of this simply doesn't match up. > > I'm on vacation at the moment, but can hopefully start a job later this > evening if it would be wanted. Anyone interested in the meantime could look > at my OSM edit history [0] to see areas that have recently become visible > on Bing. > > Best, Joseph > > > [0] > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/IknowJoseph/history#map=8/36.235/39.397 > > > > > On 17 April 2014 16:14, Severin Menard <severin.men...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> We need to be careful with the data we produce, cause it is well known >> the social medias in general are tracked by the Syrian government and that >> Point of Interests that should not be targeted unfortunately are. It would >> be really harmful eg to put the locations of mobile clinics or any health >> facility in OSM, as confirmed by a representative of a NGO of local medics >> I recently discussed with. I think for this crisis we should first >> discussed with humanitarian stakeholders to balance the benefits (I expect >> the Syrian government has more data and maps than the humanitarian relief >> organizations) and the harms of a imagery based mapping that could also be >> done more discretely than usual. >> What do think the readers of this list working for such relief >> organizations? >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Severin >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Russell Deffner < >> russell.deff...@hotosm.org> wrote: >> >>> No, anyone can use the damage tagging – please do! >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Hanan Yazigi [mailto:hananyaz...@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:14 AM >>> *To:* Mikel Maron >>> *Cc:* hot@openstreetmap.org >>> *Subject:* Re: [HOT] Syria Activation >>> >>> >>> >>> I know some locations in Damascus. And in Homs governorate. But not in a >>> priority zone. >>> >>> But I can try to figure out how I can involve more syrians from >>> different areas and cities, or work with them on specific features. >>> >>> And also: I didn't find any layers about the destructions. I think it >>> would be a very interesting information. I remember that you use to map it. >>> Am I wrong? >>> >>> Best >>> >>> On 17 Apr 2014 20:03, "Mikel Maron" <mikel_ma...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Hanan >>> >>> >>> >>> The Syrian Activation has been going for some time, but not recently >>> under an active projects. The exceptions have been import of data for >>> refugee camps in northern Jordan by UNHCR. >>> >>> >>> >>> There is still definitely a need to improve coverage in Syria. Are there >>> any particular regions that you have knowledge of, and that could use >>> greater detail, like the location and names of specific services? Perhaps >>> we can examine the state of things and think through some new tasks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for your interest. >>> >>> Mikel >>> >>> >>> >>> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron >>> >>> On Saturday, April 12, 2014 5:52 AM, Hanan Yazigi <hananyaz...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm very interested by the "Syria Activation" project. It will be very >>> helpful for so many projects (UN or small local initiatives!). >>> I would be glad to participate. >>> I know well the country and the language (I'm syrian although I grew up >>> abroad). And I have a long experience with GIS and geographic data, data >>> quality, data analysis, web-mapping, etc... >>> How can we know more about the timeline of the project? And the tasks? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> HOT mailing list >>> HOT@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> HOT mailing list >>> HOT@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >
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