Hi Severin, Perhaps the Time Zones will make this very difficult

Suggestion, have two meetings ?? To help those 12 Hour apart, then
amalgamate discussion via hackpad???

Just an Idea

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Mark



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On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Severin Menard <severin.men...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> So I added more days, hoping this time we can find again a slot that fits
> most of the people interested, I think it is important to have the max of
> them involved as Activation is really core for HOT :
> http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i  <http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i>
>
> @Mark and all, yes of course in the meantime everyone can contribute on
> the Hackpad:
> https://hackpad.com/HOT-Activation-Working-Group-TlksNOhVdir
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Severin
>
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:02 AM, Mark Cupitt <markcup...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Severin, why not just encourage discussion using hackpad for now
>> whilst waiting for the meeting to get organized.
>>
>> https://hackpad.com/HOT-Activation-Working-Group-TlksNOhVdir
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Mark Cupitt
>>
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>>
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>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Severin Menard <
>> severin.men...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Robert,
>>>
>>> The issue is that there is no super good slot in the new agenda and not
>>> everyone filled it again. Best so far is only 5 people tomorrow on Thursday
>>> at 8AM GMT (what is not a good time for America), only max 4 people
>>> otherwise.
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Severin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Banick, Robert <
>>> robert.ban...@redcross.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hi Sev *et al*,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did this ever come together? If so I’d like to add something to the
>>>> agenda. If not can I suggest yet another doodle and a deadline of next Wed.
>>>> at latest for the next meeting? Just to get things moving.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Robert Banick* | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì 
>>>> American
>>>> Red Cross <http://www.redcross.org/>
>>>>
>>>> 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
>>>>
>>>> Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Nick Allen [mailto:nick.allen...@gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 08, 2014 3:08 PM
>>>> *To:* Severin Menard
>>>> *Cc:* hot@openstreetmap.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Severin,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, I was very slow filling in doodle - waited until I heard when
>>>> the communications working group meeting would be. I've added my details
>>>> now, but I will probably not be available when the meeting takes place. I
>>>> will forward a few ideas to you before the meeting if I can't make it.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Nick
>>>>
>>>> Volunteer 'Tallguy' for
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy
>>>>
>>>> Treasurer, website & Bonus Ball admin for
>>>> http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/ (treasu...@6thswanleyscouts.org.uk)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 May 2014 13:40, Severin Menard <severin.men...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi again,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just figuring out this time slot is actually exactly the same than the
>>>> Communication Working Group! As I guess I am not the only one that would
>>>> like to participated to these two WG, so I reopen the 
>>>> Doodle<http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i>.
>>>> Maybe propose everyone will confirm there that same day same hour next week
>>>> will fit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the confusion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Seveirn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Severin Menard <
>>>> severin.men...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> According to the Doodle, the time slot that, by far, suited most of
>>>> people interested by the Activation Working Group is Friday 9 (tomorrow) at
>>>> 2 PM GMT (means 10AM EDT and 4PM CEST), so the meeting on 
>>>> Mumble<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble>will happen at that 
>>>> time. Here is the
>>>> Hackpad <https://hackpad.com/HOT-Activation-Working-Group-TlksNOhVdir>.
>>>> Anyone interested, please join!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Severin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:51 AM, Severin Menard <
>>>> severin.men...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Among the reactivated Working Groups, here is the Activation Working
>>>> Group. Activations are more and more numerous and successful with a
>>>> increasing number of contributors. The results are really impressive, but
>>>> we can certainly do even better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As for the Communication Working group (for those interested, please
>>>> fill ASAP its Doodle <http://doodle.com/3545epmy63x72gvk>) we could
>>>> start with a kick-off meeting on 
>>>> Mumble<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble>,
>>>> and here is a Doodle to set it:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i <http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This meeting and the ones that will follow aim at being a time to
>>>> exchange on this thrilling topic, review the experiences, documents,
>>>> procedures and set goals to be achieved for the next meeting. Because yes,
>>>> a Working Group is a group that works, that means between the meetings. And
>>>> actually, it is already happening: eg there are (more and more) people
>>>> working on data validation, both through setting procedures and monitoring
>>>> the freshly created data.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see 4 main topics around the Activation (but would be pleased to get
>>>> other suggestions):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. All the *activities* and *documents* involved in an Activation. In
>>>> the past the Activation Working Groups mostly focused on how Activations
>>>> are triggered and start, what we could review based on the last
>>>> experiences. Crisis monitoring is certainly something we could add, in
>>>> order not to forget crisis of smaller range or simply not highly covered by
>>>> the medias. Also technical aspects like: define and prioritize AOIs (Areas
>>>> of Interests) and mapping goals, track and monitor the mapping progresses,
>>>> and set thin, flexible and efficient processes, tools, and wiki templates,
>>>> etc. But also share and document how to maintain and even grow the
>>>> contribution of the OSM contributors and communities, by communicating with
>>>> them (like this Working Group will do), proposing more different kinds of
>>>> tasks to do or setting joint events.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. The *beneficiaries*, that means the humanitarian stakeholders. We
>>>> need both to make them aware of the data we produce and to make the data
>>>> useful and easy to use for them, taking more into account their needs,
>>>> constraints and tools. I got recent feedback from the GIS officers in the
>>>> UN that I will share.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3. The *data*. What needs to be mapped is quite known, but how to do
>>>> it to make it as clean and efficient as possible. That links to the mapping
>>>> instructions and the 
>>>> validation<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data>but
>>>>  also to how the data can be reused by the humanitarian stakeholders.
>>>> There a lot of potential improvements to propose not only raw data but eg
>>>> thematic dataset, what the HOT Exports can already potentially provide (in
>>>> link with the Technical Working Group).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4. Last, but really not least is to *make more OSM contributors know* about
>>>> the procedures and tools used to map, monitor, communicate and activate an
>>>> OSM community, and expand the number of contributors in the Activations,
>>>> according to everyone's interest(s). This implies connecting with local OSM
>>>> communities when possible, talk with them and provide them documentation
>>>> and online training. Eg in Lubumbashi after Jorieke's stay, the contact
>>>> with the local OSM community has been maintained and voluntary online
>>>> training has been and will be provided through Mumble. So now, they are
>>>> continuing the mapping (see https://twitter.com/OSM_L) and will take
>>>> an active part on the Mapping in London on Saturday. And if ever a crisis
>>>> unfortunately hits Lubumbashi in the future, they will be able to trigger
>>>> the worldwide OSM community
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Exciting, isn't it? And actually a lot of topics and sub-topics. And
>>>> some are certainly missing. This is why this Activation Working Group will
>>>> not need one leader but several facilitators, who, by their experience,
>>>> skills and will, will make things go ahead on the topic(s) they care.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let us make things move on and activate the AWG!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Severin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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