Hi Rafael, I'd just like to jump in and say I still think Loomio would be great. What is the best way to start?
Best, -Kate On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Rafael Avila Coya <ravilac...@gmail.com> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, Séverin: > > I wouldn't have any problem to open a hot-hispano mailing list (I > think this would be the most accepted/neutral term for Spanish > speaking people) with the same aims/goals as the hot-francophone. The > only problem is that I mostly don't have any contacts (blame on me > only) in the Spanish speaking community about humanitarian related > issues, and I also wonder if that community is active and big enough > to make it necessary to open a specific list for them. I only wonder. > But surely, the francophone community is way bigger and more active. > > I find your move quite a natural one. For long I have seen people > writing in French to this list, and some others writing in French with > the translation in English beneath, that is time consuming and, > probably, inconvenient in the long term. In fact, I even wonder why it > wasn't opened that list before. > > This is, in general, a good subject for discussion among the HOT > community. Although not about mailing lists, I remember not long ago, > Kate proposed to use Loomio for decision making, and she pointed out > that one of the things she liked the most was the possibility of > Loomio [1] to automatically translate messages from contributors to > each other languages. Me, and Mikel Maron (if I remember well), showed > some interest on giving a try to that platform, but that was it; no > more people was interested in it, and the thread was dead. > > Cheers, > > Rafael Ávila Coya. > > [1] https://www.loomio.org > > On 10/07/14 13:32, Severin Menard wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There is a openstreetmap.org <http://openstreetmap.org> hot list > > now for French speaking people who do not have enough English to > > participate to the hot (English) list, and they are numerous not > > only in France (I think well-known to be one of the worst English > > speaking countries :) but also in Africa and in the Caribbeans. > > This would allow people from various OSM communities especially in > > developing countries, to raise their voices and interact more (or > > quicker, because basically writing in foreign language takes more > > time) with the HOT/OSM community regarding the humanitarian and > > development topics. So far, when we wanted to interact on these > > topics in French, we had to make emails with a long list of > > talk-country lists, which is not really appropriate as it > > duplicates the same messages in various talk lists. > > > > This already exists for the dev lists: dev is in English by > > default, and there is a French and an Italian one. As I guess (I > > did not check) they do, there will be interactions between the > > lists when it seems useful after a brainstorm, around an action, a > > methodology or a new "discovery"; the people that can interact in > > the two languages can bridge the lists. If someone has experience > > on this, please tell. > > > > I would suggest the Spanish native speakers from the HOT community > > to create also a list as the community of native Spanish speakers > > in the world is twice more numerous than French. It would help > > during crisis like the ones in Bolivia or in Chile last year. > > > > For the suffix, a quick survey showed that a huge majority > > preferred hot-francophone rather than hot-fr or hot-francais, > > basically because it states clearly it is about the language and > > not the country of origin, and this does count, especially for the > > people from former French colonies. > > > > For those interested, you can subscribe here: > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot-francophone > > > > I translated the description from English, just added a bit at the > > end because the English text only talks about crisis response, and > > does not mention development, what should be rectified. The > > translation in English would be: "Apart from crisis response, the > > list helps HOT to prepare resources and improve its response, but > > also to discuss and set an OSM map for development. For this as > > well, stakeholders and population can send messages on the list > > (questions, opinions, requests, discussions...)". > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Severin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list > > HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > - -- > Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya > > - -------------------------------- > > Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, > .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. > > Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos. > > http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTvpthAAoJEB3niTly2pPQUlcP/RH7GNyvyPy9Yz2ur/pWASaG > YVqD0YqEd3WiUdu1IU/jwmCOdOHEqu0/goEtEr70YyBNZH2Fiug3IlQqLAfNMV1n > XBRxgRlfrJ1DeU092FrfOLIUZRTj9YezPTs9j6OpfzokevReHJmQyfUUa0pJkpOq > xqCDtpierlXocYbId29ErMeY82rdq6+SB4YFA1Wz/HwnSBFZ1tf/iG+ZjGyGNW/D > fRnpOItZGfseRMCqjrn4kfMFwdM/KhxaYOz+WCXlNKGcIye9boHqzjE8q6EXljfU > V/bBdOY82/tyAG12t4UTDxteyI3DfEGr0uMD3+4tnEM/rnGKMaaUyouVHP3bpdaK > FXnKHkNBmwocbG4Ue/TAEXIwvQ5kdzdVq4PmX/mlvDUFGL6aw3Rm1p5A4JRBYll9 > /+BnogShI+5IGyKdQ4L+M4H9Noner8CNiPjGDF5Fl9A5YbH9lyBfF9COPbkWDreA > tQczY5L95lNlLaPZ561WExi8GcWZOYkcjgekQ52nQ8Eakw3cR6xIkhepdDbrqil6 > g+h6vmI37C7RvuYaOHSiUW+xptJpIPBSEkrhIhxtOw2YL2J2jfImNQPP0KTVNNhu > QXc9fwFZ1S7pfumvTDVJTngZa61IDM8rVAPXpzWzoVFlOx8RsNm2ZJ7tNW/1HSgd > /P7RoetiCaWHfCULf2u/ > =Eri/ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >
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