Hi Ray,

Thank you for the kind words.

My only comment is that learning JOSM will be much easier than you think.

The nice thing about JOSM is that you do not need to learn very much at all to get started using it effectively.

http://learnosm.org/en/beginner/start-josm/ is a great learning site for JOSM.

It will make all your mapping easier and quicker so for sure any effort spent learning it will pay off a lot later.

Then as you go forward, if you need more functionality you can explore JOSM more, it is very configurable and extensible.

One thing is to get the "buildings_tools" plugin installed right away. This is the demonstration video for the plug in and it shows quickly how to install it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEQo4Jm-aPY

As always, just ask if you have any questions.

Best wishes,
Blake


On 10/22/2014 5:19 PM, Ray Kiddy wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:12:44 -0400
Blake Girardot<bgirar...@gmail.com>  wrote:

I intend to re-do this how-to I made in answer to a question on this
list a little while back:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=042TbopS7HM

It was done without much preparation and to answer some specific
questions so it needs some adjustments (and I make a mistake in
mapping if you look closely), but I think it is close to what you are
talking about for a quick description of mapping buildings.

It also uses iD as that is what the person who asked the question
used and it is what most new mappers will be using.

There should be one like it for JOSM as well which I will do.

I will also do a second one about roads in each editor.

Regards,
Blake


This video is really great. I went to a presentation in Oakland CA
last week where I was introduced to HOT and my first thought when doing
something at home was "... there has to be a video that explains some
of this ..." and here it is.

Any hints on how to fix this thing with iD? One clicks on Line or Shape
and there is a __huge__ tooltip which completely gets in the way of
using the pointer. It goes away eventually but, wow. Bothersome to say
the least.

Well, I grabbed a copy of the source for iD on github. We will see.

Or, perhaps I have too much experience with other mapping tools and am
already hitting the "OMG I have to learn JOSM" point in my mapping
career. I imagine most people hit that wall and most get past it.

I am going to try to use iD for a while and see if I can find more
videos like Blake's. And as I figure things out, I might record some
myself. Onwards and upwards and all that.

cheers - ray






On 10/21/2014 7:58 AM, john whelan wrote:
So the fantasy would be a simple screen cast video using something
like HOT task 690 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/690 since it uses
the high resolution satellite imagery, Kevin Bullock's presentation
http://vimeo.com/91880883 covers why this type is best to work
from, the interesting bit starts 5 mins in to the presentation,
locally there have been some clean up issues with lower resolution
satellite imagery and mentioning the use of the JOSM building plug
in as mentioned by Tom Taylor
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JkiL8wlvJqdVMgGxKXPzF22YzQ-S08Q31zZQna9CTMk/edit

To come back to the original topic I think you need an overview,
starting perhaps with a couple of interviews from two or three AID
agencies about why the OSM maps are important to them and how they
are used.  Then flip to the sources of data which are made free to
use such as DigitalGlobe, UN place names, and finally a few mappers
putting it altogether.  Given that the maps are useful perhaps
Unicef or someone might have some resources for this?  Or the BBC?

Cheerio John

On 21 October 2014 01:42, Kate Chapman<kate.chap...@hotosm.org
<mailto:kate.chap...@hotosm.org>>  wrote:

     Hi John,

     There are a few videos out there, but I don't know of too many
     recent ones. You are right a simple screencast showing how to
map a building for example would be really helpful. I made some
videos in 2010 about mapping from imagery in Haiti and people
really enjoyed them.

     Having updated ones would be great.

     Best,

     -Kate

     On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:59 PM, john whelan
<jwhelan0...@gmail.com<mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>>  wrote:

         Talking of videos are there any training videos about what
HOT expects?

         The reason I ask is that although we break down to give
tasks can we break it down even more.  ie teach someone to do a
simple task of map a building using high resolution satellite
imagery, sounds dumb but map one in JOSM, q it to square it, tag it
         building=yes, select,<Crtl>c move the mouse to another
<crtl>v, adjust the four corners, q again etc.

         The concept is we can teach people to map buildings on
You-tube, its simple and has value.

         Another would teach people how to recognise a road and to
tag it or highway=path.

         We may need expertise to map things like water bodies,
rivers, streams and forests but buildings and footpaths in Africa
are probably 80% of what needs to be mapped and you don't need a
         degree in GIS to do this.  Let's delegate what we can.

         Cheerio John

         On 20 October 2014 15:55, Kate Chapman
<kate.chap...@hotosm.org<mailto:kate.chap...@hotosm.org>>  wrote:

             Hi All,

             Is there a video you think best represents our work?
Most videos seem to focus on one project or are a talk at a
             conference. Do we have anything that is less specific?

             Thanks,

             -Kate

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