Andy - "imagery_used" is automatically added by iD, every time. You won't see it as a tag you can add, it's added automatically to the changeset.
2014-11-03 23:45 GMT+00:00 Andy Anderson <aander...@amherst.edu>: > Hi, Pat, > > Looking at OSM using the iD editor, when I type in “image” the only relevant > tags that pop up are “image”, “source:imagery”, and “source_type_imagery”; > “imagery_used” is not an option, I have to type it in explicitly. Does this > mean it’s not a very commonly used tag (?). > > It would be much better if this were automatic, in any case. Even with the > easy-to-use Source button present, it’s a bit of a bother; it would be even > more so if this type has to be typed or menued in every time. Theoretically > one could switch background imagery even in the middle of an edit, which > might warrant multiple tags, but that would probably be rare. > > — Andy > > On Nov 3, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Pat Tressel <ptres...@myuw.net> wrote: > > There was another thread relating to this a short while ago, so there's more > relevant discussion there. > > Two notes: > > The source tag can hold other info besides imagery, e.g. it could tell who > or what agency provided some item of information. The iD imagery_used tag > is more specific. But historically, source has been used for imagery too. > > With respect to whether the source / imagery_used tag should go on features > or changeset: I raised this question at the end of the previous thread on > this subject. We don't want to lose the fact that something was traced with > use of a particular set of imagery if someone edits a feature. Let's take > one specific case: Say that someone enters a feature (say it's one point, > just to be clear) using one set of imagery, and the imagery_used tag gets > assigned to the changeset. If someone later shifts that point, while using > a different set of imagery, is it still possible to get back to the original > changeset from the modified point? > > -- Pat > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Ray Kiddy <r...@ganymede.org> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 19:51:52 +0100 >> Sander Deryckere <sander...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > It's more logical to put it on the changeset. >> > >> > Like when you draw a building, and add source=bing. But then someone >> > who lives there gives it a name, and forgets to alter the source, the >> > object has data that can't be derived from the source. So it's in >> > fact your edit operation that has a source, not the object itself. >> >> I had wondered about this when I saw multiple source values on an >> object. I mean, which other attributes came from which source? >> Technically the source should map to the subset of the attributes that >> were observed from that source, but in real life, I would have no idea >> how that could be presented in a way anyone would understand. >> >> > As such, source=Bing is by many mappers preferred on the changeset >> > (also because it keeps the database a bit smaller). >> >> > When you edit with JOSM, you can add the source manually as a tag to >> > the changeset (which is handy if your source is a survey or offline >> > source). In iD, it automatically logs the imagery used in the >> > changeset, but you don't get an option to give other sources (which >> > is why many people still put a source on the objects). >> >> So I understand this to mean that if you are putting in an object from >> the imagery in front of you, you do not need to do anything else. I am >> not seeing that iD is attaching this anywhere but I may not be looking >> in the right place. But as long as the database sees it, I do not need >> to. >> >> Take away point, I do not need to set the source 100 times and I am >> good with that. >> >> cheers - ray >> >> > Regards, >> > Sander >> > >> > 2014-11-03 19:41 GMT+01:00 Ray Kiddy <r...@ganymede.org>: >> > >> > > >> > > Hello - >> > > >> > > This is probably a somewhat basic question about editing for HOT >> > > tasks. >> > > >> > > As I have been editing in various HOT tasks, I have been adding >> > > something like source=Bing (where that is the imagery) onto every >> > > road, every building, every ... everything that I create. Need I >> > > bother with this? >> > > >> > > I have seen in (perhaps just some tasks') instructions that I could >> > > also just put this on the changeset comment. So I can just add it >> > > to the changeset once instead of adding it to the object 100 times? >> > > >> > > If it could be put on the changeset comment and not on every object, >> > > that would be convenient. It would also explain why, when I look at >> > > all of the objects others have created, I hardly ever see a source >> > > value. >> > > >> > > So, am I doing too much work by re-entering the source value every >> > > time? 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