Hey Ray, Some shortcuts for JOSM are here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Keyboard_Shortcuts
The learning materials for OSM are constantly being developed and improved. MapGive created some nice intro materials http://mapgive.state.gov/learn-to-map/. HOT is still actively working on learnosm (http://learnosm.org/en/). HOT has also just started to develop OSM tracing guides (http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/). Both of the HOT projects are GitHub repositories (https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm and https://github.com/hotosm/tracing-guides). Contributors welcome! You don't need to write tutorials, it's helpful if you even just submit issues via Github to request materials or point out deficiencies/mistakes. If you don't have/want a Github account, notify the list and I'm sure someone can log the issue for you. All the best, Dan Joseph On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Ray Kiddy <r...@ganymede.org> wrote: > On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 15:12:21 -0500 > john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Just for the heck of it I ran JOSM validation on a tile I was mapping > > before touching it. It turned up duplicate buildings, crossed > > buildings, lots of highways separated by a few inches etc. > > > > Do we need an idiot guide? A sort of this is how to provide the > > maximum benefit for the least effort. > > Speaking as an idiot, I would say that the answer to this is yes. > > Perhaps you think I jest.... > > > Mine would probably run along the lines of for Africa the convention > > is only the following values of highways are used for minor highways: > > path, track, unclassified, use highway=road if you are uncertain. > > Someone will probably have tagged the secondary and primary highways. > > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsecondary> > > If possible use JOSM especially for buildings. Please map buildings > > as building=yes do not assume it is a house. > > As a 2-3 times per week mapper (who wishes I could do more), it can get > frustrating. Lots of projects point to the Africa roads page but that > page is hard to interpret for any particular context. There is a lot of > information. > > And I hate to say it but I use ID and it drives me nuts. This may be > from browser/js/platform issues. I am using Firefox 36.0 on Ubuntu > 14.04 LTS. But I have looked at JOSM and it is somewhat bewildering and > I have no idea how long it would take to get over the first humps of the > learning curve. For now, my annoyances with ID are tolerable. > > If one was able to look at a task and see what tags where being used > and how often within just that task, this might help the "African > roads" situation. > > > People use maps to get from one place to another, if the highways are > > joined up then routing software such as comes as part of OSMAND can be > > used. Look for highways around settlements that connect to other > > settlements. > > > > <Crtl><arrow> in JOSM will navigate vertically or horizontally making > > scanning easier. > > I should see if there is a cheat sheet for JOSM. It would be nice to > know what control-shift-elbox-J does and all that. Of course, these may > be platform specific (eg Windows keys vs Linux keys vs MacOS X keys). > > > I assume that most of these errors have crept in because JOSM > > validation was not used. I suspect that the immediate feedback from > > JOSM might assist our less skilled mappers to improve their skills. > > > > Cheerio John > > There needs to be validation on input and obviously both ID and JOSM do > some, but can validation be done on the server? This would be better, > especially if the results can be communicated to users. A HOT task could > have a "Validations" tab. I, for one, would like to see the things that > have been already fixed in data in that task. It would let me know when > there are things not to do. If I am going to make a mistake within a > task's maps, it is at least a bit likely that others will make or > have made similar mistakes in the same context. > > Again, seeing the phrase "JOSM might assist our less skilled mappers", > I have to wonder what you are thinking about here. Any sentence with > both "JOSM" and "less skilled mappers" in it is going to lead to bad > things. JOSM might be easier than it is, but I am not even very sure of > that. Sometimes complex tasks require complex tools. One just hopes > that there are options between the "very-simple-but-also-brain-dead" > tool and the "amazingly-powerful-but-shockingly-unintuitive" tool. I am > not saying that this is what JSOM and ID are, but hopefully you see my > point. > > So, grump back at ya. :-) > > cheers - ray > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >
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