Hi Sarah Quite long journey since saturday morning :)The first days of Responses to such disasters are in essence quite chaotic. I am quite sad by the death reports and about the situation of people in remote villages. I am also very impressed by the international effort. Our folks at Kathmandu Living Labs working in hard conditions are very inspiring.
Last day discusions show that Coordination of crowdsourcing effort fantastic and uneasy. My stats from the beginnin to half day today indicate 3,390,000 objects edited. This in 4.5 days. This is quite impressive. At the same time, we need to validate such data, assure to provide quality data to responders about villages, houses, roads, Informal camps (IDP), etc. For the various Mapathons, it is important to provide clear guidelines, to follow closely the new contributors. Myself, I provide various infos via http://twitter.com/pierzen The wiki page announces the various productshttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake See also the reports from the Katmandu Living labs. http://kathmandulivinglabs.org/ Cheers to all for this, including our Imagery providers Pleiades / Airbus, Mapgive / HIU and Mapbox. And surely more to come. Pierre De : Sarah Johns <sjo...@bond.org.uk> À : "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> Envoyé le : Mercredi 29 avril 2015 11h13 Objet : [HOT] Info on Nepal earthquake for NGOs? Hello I work with Bond, which is the UK network of NGOs. I've posted some info and links about what you are doing on the Nepal earthquake, and wondered if you have an additional blog post or something for NGOs to encourage them to use the maps, or additionally to encourage volunteers to get involved? I know that here in the UK British Red Cross are working with Missing Maps to contribute, and that MapAction is also providing information, but it would be useful to have some general guidance for NGOs as we have many members who are responding. Kind regards, Sarah ________________________________________ From: hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org <hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org> Sent: 29 April 2015 13:00 To: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: HOT Digest, Vol 62, Issue 41 Send HOT mailing list submissions to hot@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at hot-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of HOT digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project (Pierre Béland) 2. Re: Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project (Chad Blevins) 3. Re: Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project (Pierre Béland) 4. Re: Kathmandu camps or incident reporting (Om G) 5. Re: AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH! (Om G) 6. Re: Kathmandu camps or incident reporting (Danishka Navin) 7. TomNod integration for the next time around (William Morris) 8. Re: TomNod integration for the next time around (Eric Gundersen) 9. Re: Undiscussed import of village nodes in Nepal (arch_a...@t-online.de) 10. Re: TomNod integration for the next time around (Daniel O'Connor) 11. Satellite image quality too low for mapping / not loading (Dilys Ong) 12. Re: Satellite image quality too low for mapping / not loading (Dan Marsh) 13. Re: Kathmandu camps or incident reporting (Milo van der Linden) 14. Landslide inventory (rubini santha) 15. Re: Kathmandu camps or incident reporting (Danishka Navin) 16. Re: Landslide inventory (Imre Samu) 17. Re: Satellite image quality too low for mapping / not loading (Max Bainrot) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:25:00 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Béland <pierz...@yahoo.fr> To: Stace Maples <stacemap...@stanford.edu>, Harushi Tetsuka <haru...@prod-ent.com> Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project Message-ID: <608793073.9507020.1430256300375.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Stacey, Important that somebody revise these documents before advertisiing. http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/Nepal.htmlThis Guide should be revised. For IDP, it instruct Area feature Tent = Yes Instructions, as indicated in job 1010 are - idp:camp_site=spontaneous_camp - damage:event=nepal_earthquake_2015 - source=DigitalGlobe/Mapbox WV3 27 April 2015 regard Pierre De : Stacey Maples <stacemap...@stanford.edu> À : Harushi Tetsuka <haru...@prod-ent.com> Cc : hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 28 avril 2015 17h08 Objet : Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project Apologies for cut and paste, here you go Harushi: Basic Information for Contributing RIGHT NOW Working on OpenStreetMap Tasks General Info on the OSM Humanitarian Mapping effort:http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquakeIf you want to contribute IMMEDIATELY to ongoing Humanitarian Mapping efforts for Nepal through Humanitarian OpenStreetMap.org, please do the following:First go through the 30 minute training on http://mapgive.state.gov to learn the basics of humanitarian mapping using OpenStreetMap.orgThen go to the HOTOSM Task Manager at http://tasks.hotosm.org/ and select a job that you feel comfortable contributing to. Read the directions carefully for the job, then select one of the squares next to one that is marked as complete. This will allow you to pan to the completed square so you can see how others are digitizing the features and mimic their work.It doesn't matter how long you work, or how many features you digitize. There are currently hundreds of people mapping on HOTOSM for the Nepal Earthquake.Every edit counts. Additional Tutorials and HOTOSM Resources - For examples of Before and After Earthquake Damage Assessments from Satellite Imagery http://unosat-maps.web.cern.ch/unosat-maps/NP/EQ20150425NPL/UNOSAT_Nepal_20150427_v1.pdf - Guidance for Mapping IDP (Internally Displaced People) Camps in the Nepal HOTOSM Tasks http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/Nepal.html In F,L&T, Stace Maples Geospatial Manager Stanford Geospatial Center @mapninja staceymaples@G+Skype: stacey.maples214.641.0920Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/ "I have a map of the United States... actual size. It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." I spent last summer folding it." -Steven Wright- From: "Harushi Tetsuka" <haru...@prod-ent.com> To: hot@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 12:51:47 PM Subject: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project I am a retired professional with above average computer skills. I have registered with Open Street and HOT. I am ready to help but I am not clear on how to receive an assignment. In the meantime, I will try and get acclimated with the map making program. Please advise. Harushi Tetsuka _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20150428/6f858cd6/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 18:11:59 -0400 From: Chad Blevins <cblev...@usaid.gov> To: Pierre Béland <pierz...@yahoo.fr> Cc: Harushi Tetsuka <haru...@prod-ent.com>, "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project Message-ID: <CAGbYHsLYMNu2UcJ_pYVU55ZJHSBJtbRdi1i39omT2BYf=_z...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Pierre, I will take care of that now. My plan is to review this with a few folks today/tomorrow and post a more finalized version tomorrow. Thanks, Chad On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Pierre Béland <pierz...@yahoo.fr> wrote: > Stacey, > > Important that somebody revise these documents before advertisiing. > > http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/Nepal.html > This Guide should be revised. For IDP, it instruct > Area feature > Tent = Yes > > Instructions, as indicated in job 1010 are > > - *idp:camp_site=spontaneous_camp* > - *damage:event=nepal_earthquake_2015* > - *source=DigitalGlobe/Mapbox WV3 27 April 2015* > > regard > > Pierre > > ------------------------------ > *De :* Stacey Maples <stacemap...@stanford.edu> > *À :* Harushi Tetsuka <haru...@prod-ent.com> > *Cc :* hot@openstreetmap.org > *Envoyé le :* Mardi 28 avril 2015 17h08 > *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project > > Apologies for cut and paste, here you go Harushi: > > Basic Information for Contributing *RIGHT NOW* > <http://stanfordgeospatialcenter.github.io/Map4Nepal_Resources/#working-on-openstreetmap-tasks>Working > on OpenStreetMap Tasks > General Info on the OSM Humanitarian Mapping effort > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake>: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake > If you want to contribute IMMEDIATELY to ongoing Humanitarian Mapping > efforts for Nepal through Humanitarian OpenStreetMap.org, please do the > following: > *First* go through the 30 minute training on http://mapgive.state.gov to > learn the basics of humanitarian mapping using OpenStreetMap.org > *Then* go to the HOTOSM Task Manager at http://tasks.hotosm.org/ and > select a job that you feel comfortable contributing to. Read the directions > carefully for the job, then select one of the squares next to one that is > marked as complete. This will allow you to pan to the completed square so > you can see how others are digitizing the features and mimic their work. > It doesn't matter how long you work, or how many features you digitize. > There are currently hundreds of people mapping on HOTOSM for the Nepal > Earthquake.Every edit counts. > > <http://stanfordgeospatialcenter.github.io/Map4Nepal_Resources/#additional-tutorials-and-hotosm-resources>Additional > Tutorials and HOTOSM Resources > > - *For examples of Before and After Earthquake Damage Assessments from > Satellite Imagery* > > >http://unosat-maps.web.cern.ch/unosat-maps/NP/EQ20150425NPL/UNOSAT_Nepal_20150427_v1.pdf > - *Guidance for Mapping IDP (Internally Displaced People) Camps in the > Nepal HOTOSM Tasks* > http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/Nepal.html > > > In F,L&T, > Stace Maples > Geospatial Manager > Stanford Geospatial Center > @mapninja > staceymaples@G+ > Skype: stacey.maples > 214.641.0920 > Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu > Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/ > > "I have a map of the United States... actual size. > It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." > I spent last summer folding it." > -Steven Wright- > > ------------------------------ > > > *From: *"Harushi Tetsuka" <haru...@prod-ent.com> > *To: *hot@openstreetmap.org > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 28, 2015 12:51:47 PM > *Subject: *[HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project > > I am a retired professional with above average computer skills. I have > registered with Open Street and HOT. I am ready to help but I am not > clear on how to receive an assignment. In the meantime, I will try and > get acclimated with the map making program. Please advise. > > Harushi Tetsuka > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > -- *Chad Blevins* GeoCenter U.S. Global Development Lab USAID 202-712-0464 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20150428/3c9a556f/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 22:25:54 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Béland <pierz...@yahoo.fr> To: Chad Blevins <cblev...@usaid.gov> Cc: Harushi Tetsuka <haru...@prod-ent.com>, "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project Message-ID: <1171922311.35626.1430259954046.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks Chad Pierre De : Chad Blevins <cblev...@usaid.gov> À : Pierre Béland <pierz...@yahoo.fr> Cc : Stace Maples <stacemap...@stanford.edu>; Harushi Tetsuka <haru...@prod-ent.com>; "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> Envoyé le : Mardi 28 avril 2015 18h11 Objet : Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project Pierre, I will take care of that now. My plan is to review this with a few folks today/tomorrow and post a more finalized version tomorrow. Thanks,Chad On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Pierre Béland <pierz...@yahoo.fr> wrote: Stacey, Important that somebody revise these documents before advertisiing. http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/Nepal.htmlThis Guide should be revised. For IDP, it instruct Area feature Tent = Yes Instructions, as indicated in job 1010 are - idp:camp_site=spontaneous_camp - damage:event=nepal_earthquake_2015 - source=DigitalGlobe/Mapbox WV3 27 April 2015 regard Pierre De : Stacey Maples <stacemap...@stanford.edu> À : Harushi Tetsuka <haru...@prod-ent.com> Cc : hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 28 avril 2015 17h08 Objet : Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project Apologies for cut and paste, here you go Harushi: Basic Information for Contributing RIGHT NOW Working on OpenStreetMap Tasks General Info on the OSM Humanitarian Mapping effort:http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquakeIf you want to contribute IMMEDIATELY to ongoing Humanitarian Mapping efforts for Nepal through Humanitarian OpenStreetMap.org, please do the following:First go through the 30 minute training on http://mapgive.state.gov to learn the basics of humanitarian mapping using OpenStreetMap.orgThen go to the HOTOSM Task Manager at http://tasks.hotosm.org/ and select a job that you feel comfortable contributing to. Read the directions carefully for the job, then select one of the squares next to one that is marked as complete. This will allow you to pan to the completed square so you can see how others are digitizing the features and mimic their work.It doesn't matter how long you work, or how many features you digitize. There are currently hundreds of people mapping on HOTOSM for the Nepal Earthquake.Every edit counts. Additional Tutorials and HOTOSM Resources - For examples of Before and After Earthquake Damage Assessments from Satellite Imagery http://unosat-maps.web.cern.ch/unosat-maps/NP/EQ20150425NPL/UNOSAT_Nepal_20150427_v1.pdf - Guidance for Mapping IDP (Internally Displaced People) Camps in the Nepal HOTOSM Tasks http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/Nepal.html In F,L&T, Stace Maples Geospatial Manager Stanford Geospatial Center @mapninja staceymaples@G+Skype: stacey.maples214.641.0920Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/ "I have a map of the United States... actual size. It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." I spent last summer folding it." -Steven Wright- From: "Harushi Tetsuka" <haru...@prod-ent.com> To: hot@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 12:51:47 PM Subject: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project I am a retired professional with above average computer skills. I have registered with Open Street and HOT. I am ready to help but I am not clear on how to receive an assignment. In the meantime, I will try and get acclimated with the map making program. Please advise. Harushi Tetsuka _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Chad BlevinsGeoCenter U.S. Global Development Lab USAID202-712-0464 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20150428/37ce7986/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:10:35 -0400 From: Om G <om.i...@gmail.com> To: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Kathmandu camps or incident reporting Message-ID: <da4ed252-749d-43fb-8cf1-88f3cb1c6...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 QR codes can also be easily printed out locally and included on leaflets that are dropped into an area. I’m confident people will have cell coverage before some roads are cleared. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:20:03 -0400 From: Om G <om.i...@gmail.com> To: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH! Message-ID: <82d6d8a3-29eb-40da-a647-b29dcaceb...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ralph, I believe that you offered the solution within your message. Can we make it explicit that "New" volunteers are to ONLY work on the White Tiles ? I believe most volunteers are capable of following this request, and do have the best intentions with their involvement. It would be onerous to create a huge intake process and train people to a level of proficiency in the middle of a crisis. But extra hands do make things easier. So, without an achievement rank that is tied to access, we can ask that the White Tiles are the only ones new volunteers edit. I think it would also help to mention that the leadership will identify and promote individuals who demonstrate proficiency as the project continues. Om ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:12:21 +0800 From: Danishka Navin <danis...@gmail.com> To: Om G <om.i...@gmail.com> Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Kathmandu camps or incident reporting Message-ID: <cakjxiwq_s26c2hbljb7emrhtragscdekbu88kcrl3-r3kzb...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Is it possible to contact local contributors? On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Om G <om.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > QR codes can also be easily printed out locally and included on leaflets > that are dropped into an area. > > I’m confident people will have cell coverage before some roads are cleared. > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/danishkanavin http://www.flickr.com/photos/danishkanavin/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20150429/1a54507e/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 03:56:37 +0000 From: William Morris <wboyk...@geosprocket.com> To: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> Subject: [HOT] TomNod integration for the next time around Message-ID: <CAP42BmiOt_LcYByuqwpNOqdg9H1cF_5ZyC4=28Vn2dj4=+9...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Kevin Bullock of DigitalGlobe has graciously shared the results of the TomNod effort so far, licensed CC 3.0 (with a plan to specifically permit OSM use): - map: https://geosprocket.cartodb.com/viz/bb5ed630-ee1e-11e4-8dca-0e018d66dc29/embed_map - data: http://mapperdev.tomnod.com/results/ It seems like there might be an opportunity in future activations (or now) to use this data for: 1.) Planning and prioritization - as we move into damage assessment we're probably going to be a step behind the TomNod participants; we should be able to configure tasks that focus on areas with a high concentration of damage reports and high levels of agreement. (I can't claim origination of this idea: https://twitter.com/iheartcrowds/status/593170666662146048) 2.) Direct import - this is more dangerous, but there's an opportunity to directly link TomNod contributions to OSM. High-agreement damaged buildings seems like a possible starting place. There are many technical considerations to be ironed out, including the realtime nature of the TomNod data. It could benefit from a streaming API of some sort, as well as some form of integration in the task manager. In the meantime there's this somewhat-awkward url for overlays: https://cartocdn-ashbu.global.ssl.fastly.net/geosprocket/api/v1/map/9ec70f30baf2a63e797ae341c8965733:1430273972053.4001/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png?map_key=dca6cb71991448200cc2ade26ff013da486a78ca&cache_policy=persist Hopefully this is an opportunity to minimize effort duplication and leverage another motivated group of contributors. -Bill Morris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Again, just trying to understand the value they bring -- the teams that started TomNod it is wicked cool and DIgitalGlobe, who bought TomNod, is a huge OSM lover - so lots of love. -sent from the mobile- > On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:56 PM, William Morris <wboyk...@geosprocket.com> wrote: > > Kevin Bullock of DigitalGlobe has graciously shared the results of the TomNod > effort so far, licensed CC 3.0 (with a plan to specifically permit OSM use): > - map: > https://geosprocket.cartodb.com/viz/bb5ed630-ee1e-11e4-8dca-0e018d66dc29/embed_map > - data: http://mapperdev.tomnod.com/results/ > > It seems like there might be an opportunity in future activations (or now) to > use this data for: > > 1.) Planning and prioritization - as we move into damage assessment we're > probably going to be a step behind the TomNod participants; we should be able > to configure tasks that focus on areas with a high concentration of damage > reports and high levels of agreement. (I can't claim origination of this > idea: https://twitter.com/iheartcrowds/status/593170666662146048) > 2.) Direct import - this is more dangerous, but there's an opportunity to > directly link TomNod contributions to OSM. High-agreement damaged buildings > seems like a possible starting place. > > There are many technical considerations to be ironed out, including the > realtime nature of the TomNod data. It could benefit from a streaming API of > some sort, as well as some form of integration in the task manager. In the > meantime there's this somewhat-awkward url for overlays: > > https://cartocdn-ashbu.global.ssl.fastly.net/geosprocket/api/v1/map/9ec70f30baf2a63e797ae341c8965733:1430273972053.4001/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png?map_key=dca6cb71991448200cc2ade26ff013da486a78ca&cache_policy=persist > > Hopefully this is an opportunity to minimize effort duplication and leverage > another motivated group of contributors. > > -Bill Morris > > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20150428/a86bde32/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:09:23 +0200 From: "arch_a...@t-online.de" <arch_a...@t-online.de> To: "Serge Wroclawski" <emac...@gmail.com>, "Rafael Avila Coya" <ravilac...@gmail.com> Cc: DWG <d...@osmfoundation.org>, OSM Imports List <impo...@openstreetmap.org>, hot <hot@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [HOT] Undiscussed import of village nodes in Nepal Message-ID: <21741815554091b32fb226.18380...@email.t-online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" @Serge: Thanks for the quick reaction in those hectic times. @Rafael: Thanks for your offer. It would be great if you could give her some guidance :) - Arch -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [HOT] Undiscussed import of village nodes in Nepal Datum: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:34:15 +0200 Von: Serge Wroclawski <emac...@gmail.com> An: Rafael Avila Coya <ravilac...@gmail.com> I have placed a block message on this users's account in the hopes that she reads it and can reply quickly to the changeset discussions. If I don't hear back from her soon, I will revert the changesets in order to minimize the disruption of mapping in Nepal during the crisis. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/634 - Serge On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Rafael Avila Coya <ravilac...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi there: > > Thanks for informing about this. > > I contacted the user who made this import, offering help to do this > import in a proper way, following strictly the imports guidelines. I am > completely sure she did the import with good intentions, but it > obviously cannot be done this way. > > I guess that, as soon as she answers, we should revert the changesets. > Any thoughts? > > Cheers, > > Rafael. > > On 28/04/15 19:56, arch_a...@t-online.de wrote: >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I've detected an undiscussed import of village names in Nepal. Please >> delete it before further damage arises due to this import. >> >> >> >> It is unclear where this data comes from and if it's copyrighted. Each >> node is tagged with fixme and note=these locations and village names >> might not be 100% accurate. It seems that there was no manual validation >> process. No import account was created for the import. No documentation >> in the Wiki about the import. All nodes were imported twice times. >> Unclear if the import took existing village nodes into account. >> >> >> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30581704 >> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30581271 >> >> >> >> Thanks, Arch >> >> >> >> PS: I've also forwarded this mail to imports@ and hot@openstreetmap.org >> >> >> >> >> Profitieren Sie von der sicheren E-Mail-Übertragung Ihrer Daten mit >> einer kostenlosen E-Mail-Adresse der Telekom. >> www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > > -- > Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya > > -------------------------------- > > Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, > .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. > > Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos. > > http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros ---------------------------------------------------------------- Profitieren Sie von der sicheren E-Mail-Übertragung Ihrer Daten mit einer kostenlosen E-Mail-Adresse der Telekom. www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 18:46:17 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" <daniel.ocon...@gmail.com> To: Eric Gundersen <e...@mapbox.com> Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [HOT] TomNod integration for the next time around Message-ID: <cajszyfa1ypq5yde3mocmjgdyisignqvt-srfdmcukgpjpmp...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > I don't really understand what TomNod does It's a giant slippy map loading newer imagery and asking for simple tagging. As you scroll it marks tiles as reviewed. High overlap with the purpose of the tasking manager in building tracing then updating those with appropriate damage tags; ditto road blocks etc; but because it has a much simpler task it seems to be easier to use. Blocked roads certainly would be worthwhile adding in to a variety of routing solutions - OSM for the roads, TomNod for the obstacles kind of thing. Ditto updating major buildings in OSM that are heavily damaged/destroyed. If the resulting data is licensed CC 3.0; then its not necessarily proprietary in this instance. On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Eric Gundersen <e...@mapbox.com> wrote: > Bill can you share more on this: > > as we move into damage assessment we're probably going to be a step > behind the TomNod participants; > > I don't really understand what TomNod does or why people contribute to a > proprietary platforms like TomNod. Why do think OSM needs a platform like > TomNod and what data do they bring to the table? Again, just trying to > understand the value they bring -- the teams that started TomNod it is > wicked cool and DIgitalGlobe, who bought TomNod, is a huge OSM lover - so > lots of love. > > > -sent from the mobile- > > On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:56 PM, William Morris <wboyk...@geosprocket.com> > wrote: > > Kevin Bullock of DigitalGlobe has graciously shared the results of the > TomNod effort so far, licensed CC 3.0 (with a plan to specifically permit > OSM use): > - map: > https://geosprocket.cartodb.com/viz/bb5ed630-ee1e-11e4-8dca-0e018d66dc29/embed_map > > - data: http://mapperdev.tomnod.com/results/ > > It seems like there might be an opportunity in future activations (or now) > to use this data for: > > 1.) Planning and prioritization - as we move into damage assessment we're > probably going to be a step behind the TomNod participants; we should be > able to configure tasks that focus on areas with a high concentration of > damage reports and high levels of agreement. (I can't claim origination of > this idea: https://twitter.com/iheartcrowds/status/593170666662146048) > 2.) Direct import - this is more dangerous, but there's an opportunity to > directly link TomNod contributions to OSM. High-agreement damaged buildings > seems like a possible starting place. > > There are many technical considerations to be ironed out, including the > realtime nature of the TomNod data. It could benefit from a streaming API > of some sort, as well as some form of integration in the task manager. In > the meantime there's this somewhat-awkward url for overlays: > > > https://cartocdn-ashbu.global.ssl.fastly.net/geosprocket/api/v1/map/9ec70f30baf2a63e797ae341c8965733:1430273972053.4001/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png?map_key=dca6cb71991448200cc2ade26ff013da486a78ca&cache_policy=persist > > Hopefully this is an opportunity to minimize effort duplication and > leverage another motivated group of contributors. > > -Bill Morris > > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Using the iD-Editor, the quality of > the satellite images is very low and i can't really make out the features. > Please help! > > > Dilys > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20150429/a2d46fa3/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:42:50 +0200 From: Milo van der Linden <m...@dogodigi.net> To: Danishka Navin <danis...@gmail.com> Cc: Om G <om.i...@gmail.com>, hot <hot@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [HOT] Kathmandu camps or incident reporting Message-ID: <CANqqyn=edwx0htnatdmjfqc2b3if6s1vt8a7s1rbvgstcr5...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello Danishka, you can contact the Kathmandu living labs: http://kathmandulivinglabs.org/ (address and comm info at top of page) 2015-04-29 5:12 GMT+02:00 Danishka Navin <danis...@gmail.com>: > Is it possible to contact local contributors? > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Om G <om.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> QR codes can also be easily printed out locally and included on leaflets >> that are dropped into an area. >> >> I’m confident people will have cell coverage before some roads are >> cleared. >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > > > > -- > Danishka Navin > http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com > http://twitter.com/danishkanavin > http://www.flickr.com/photos/danishkanavin/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > -- [image: http://www.dogodigi.net] <http://www.dogodigi.net> *Milo van der Linden* web: dogodigi <http://www.dogodigi.net> tel: +31-6-16598808 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20150429/2f5b8c60/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:50:27 +0800 From: Danishka Navin <danis...@gmail.com> To: Milo van der Linden <m...@dogodigi.net> Cc: Om G <om.i...@gmail.com>, hot <hot@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [HOT] Kathmandu camps or incident reporting Message-ID: <cakjxiwqra3_lkmgtymjuks8_auwcgmcs1d0nhssqfx1h+1e...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Milo, I already sent a mail. :) On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Milo van der Linden <m...@dogodigi.net> wrote: > Hello Danishka, you can contact the Kathmandu living labs: > http://kathmandulivinglabs.org/ (address and comm info at top of page) > > > > 2015-04-29 5:12 GMT+02:00 Danishka Navin <danis...@gmail.com>: > >> Is it possible to contact local contributors? >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Om G <om.i...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> QR codes can also be easily printed out locally and included on leaflets >>> that are dropped into an area. >>> >>> I’m confident people will have cell coverage before some roads are >>> cleared. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> HOT mailing list >>> HOT@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Danishka Navin >> http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com >> http://twitter.com/danishkanavin >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/danishkanavin/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> > > > -- > [image: http://www.dogodigi.net] <http://www.dogodigi.net> > *Milo van der Linden* > web: dogodigi <http://www.dogodigi.net> > tel: +31-6-16598808 > -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/danishkanavin http://www.flickr.com/photos/danishkanavin/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20150429/bb52b3c2/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:45:01 +0200 From: Imre Samu <pella.s...@gmail.com> To: rubini santha <ruby86san...@gmail.com> Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [HOT] Landslide inventory Message-ID: <CAJnEWwmrWXNE0K34xjKAC6SA_9hKAR0qdR6Cn+hP=of2e69...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >landslide inventory locations in Nepal. If I understand you correctly: You can collect info about "landslide" text from the OpenStreetMap database http://nepal-taginfo.openstreetmap.hu/search?q=landslide#keys http://nepal-taginfo.openstreetmap.hu/search?q=landslide#values And query via overpass-turbo and export to GeoJson example: * ( name ~ /landslide$/i ) or (hazard_type=landslide) or (landuse=landslide) in Nepal* permalink: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/94J but you have to check manually every data. ( modification time and other osm tags ) And you can check synonyms for “landslide”: http://nepal-taginfo.openstreetmap.hu/search?q=landslip#values http://nepal-taginfo.openstreetmap.hu/search?q=avalanche#values Regards, Imre 2015-04-29 11:44 GMT+02:00 rubini santha <ruby86san...@gmail.com>: > Hi all, > I am sorry if I am sending the message in the wrong thread! Can some one > help me with landslide inventory locations in Nepal. > Thanks! > > Dr.Rubini Santha > Geomatics Engineering > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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