OK I've just finished that blog
post:http://hotosm.org/updates/2015-05-01_nepal_earthquake_we_have_maps
It's still not quite what I had in mind because it turned into a bit of an epic
list of links. Always easier to write lots of words than a few :-) But we
could maybe do a version of this where we try to limit it to just the more
non-techy options for printing and mobile apps.
It gave me a few thoughts on our output offerings while I was writing and
testing out the options:
- I'm not actually sure if we should be recommending OsmAnd for iphone yet.
It's very new. Does it work properly?
- We have an OsmAnd page on learnosm. It might be good idea to re-arrange that
so that a user who's only interested in map *viewing* can read the top of the
page.
- We could maybe do better with offering ready-to-print downloadable PDFs /
raster images. KLL have done a few downloads. I'd love to see some nicely
generated *vector* PDFs for crisper print quality (Is *anyone* doing this? I've
only ever seen it on cycle.travel )
- KLL have also done some hi-res raster images for print. That's an idea we
could do more of. Renderings done in a x2 retina style.
- Zverik's been doing some improvements to bigmap2. I need to test that a bit
more and chase down a bug I was experiencing. I like the nice sputnik style and
the 'contours' transparent overlay which we can play with on there.
Harry
From: Harry Wood <[email protected]>
To: Sarah Johns <[email protected]>; "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, 29 April 2015, 17:49
Subject: Re: [HOT] Info on Nepal earthquake for NGOs?
"something for NGOs to encourage them to use the maps"
I believe our best answer to this question is the top section of the wiki page
"Map and Data Services"
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake#Map_and_Data_Services
But I'm conscious that this is falling short of being a clear glossy
brochure-type explanation of the maps we're offering and how NGOs would use
them. KLL have done a site which is pretty glossy:
http://kathmandulivinglabs.github.io/quake-maps/ Perhaps that is better link
for you to share Sarah.
I'm very keen that we should have such information somewhere front and centre
(hence this wiki section has ...almost ...stayed at the top of the page) This
is actually *the most important message* we need to get out.
(Attracting new mappers is *not* the most important message, given that we seem
to have almost too many to cope with, and the map was actually pretty detailed
before we even started anyway!)
I remember writing a blog post about the Haiti response as we encountered a
similar flood of new mappers after we'd already created great maps:
http://harrywood.co.uk/blog/2010/01/21/haiti-earthquake-on-openstreetmap/
I think the number one untapped opportunity we're offering for on-the-ground
aid workers, is *offline maps*. We allow somebody heading into the disaster
zone to easily go equipped with detailed maps of all of Nepal loaded onto their
device (mainly via the OsmAnd downloads). Why would any aid worker fly out to
Nepal and *not* do this? Only because they don't know about it.
And if people *are* doing this, prove it! A good cc-licensed photo of an aid
worker visibly in Nepal visibly with OpenStreetMap on their smartphone, is all
I dream about! (Take that as a challenge, folks in Nepal. Photo me happy!)
But I agree we could also do a HOT blog post focussed on the maps and
downloads. Maybe I'll begin drafting something:
https://hackpad.com/Blog-post-Nepal-earthquake.-We-have-maps-jCyVr9LMoRP
Harry Wood
(in London UK)
----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah Johns <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, 29 April 2015, 16:13
Subject: [HOT] Info on Nepal earthquake for NGOs?
Hello I work with Bond, which is the UK network of NGOs. I've posted some info
and links about what you are doing on the Nepal earthquake, and wondered if you
have an additional blog post or something for NGOs to encourage them to use the
maps, or additionally to encourage volunteers to get involved? I know that
here in the UK British Red Cross are working with Missing Maps to contribute,
and that MapAction is also providing information, but it would be useful to
have some general guidance for NGOs as we have many members who are responding.
Kind regards,
Sarah
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1. Re: Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project
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2. Re: Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project
(Chad Blevins)
3. Re: Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project
(Pierre Béland)
4. Re: Kathmandu camps or incident reporting (Om G)
5. Re: AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH! (Om G)
6. Re: Kathmandu camps or incident reporting (Danishka Navin)
7. TomNod integration for the next time around (William Morris)
8. Re: TomNod integration for the next time around (Eric Gundersen)
9. Re: Undiscussed import of village nodes in Nepal
([email protected])
10. Re: TomNod integration for the next time around (Daniel O'Connor)
11. Satellite image quality too low for mapping / not loading
(Dilys Ong)
12. Re: Satellite image quality too low for mapping / not loading
(Dan Marsh)
13. Re: Kathmandu camps or incident reporting (Milo van der Linden)
14. Landslide inventory (rubini santha)
15. Re: Kathmandu camps or incident reporting (Danishka Navin)
16. Re: Landslide inventory (Imre Samu)
17. Re: Satellite image quality too low for mapping / not loading
(Max Bainrot)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:25:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: Pierre Béland <[email protected]>
To: Stace Maples <[email protected]>, Harushi Tetsuka
<[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Stacey,
Important that somebody revise these documents before advertisiing.
http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/Nepal.htmlThis Guide should be
revised. For IDP, it instruct
Area feature
Tent = Yes
Instructions, as indicated in job 1010 are
- idp:camp_site=spontaneous_camp
- damage:event=nepal_earthquake_2015
- source=DigitalGlobe/Mapbox WV3 27 April 2015
regard
Pierre
De : Stacey Maples <[email protected]>
À : Harushi Tetsuka <[email protected]>
Cc : [email protected]
Envoyé le : Mardi 28 avril 2015 17h08
Objet : Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project
Apologies for cut and paste, here you go Harushi:
Basic Information for Contributing RIGHT NOW
Working on OpenStreetMap Tasks
General Info on the OSM Humanitarian Mapping
effort:http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquakeIf you want to
contribute IMMEDIATELY to ongoing Humanitarian Mapping efforts for Nepal
through Humanitarian OpenStreetMap.org, please do the following:First go
through the 30 minute training on http://mapgive.state.gov to learn the basics
of humanitarian mapping using OpenStreetMap.orgThen go to the HOTOSM Task
Manager at http://tasks.hotosm.org/ and select a job that you feel comfortable
contributing to. Read the directions carefully for the job, then select one of
the squares next to one that is marked as complete. This will allow you to pan
to the completed square so you can see how others are digitizing the features
and mimic their work.It doesn't matter how long you work, or how many features
you digitize. There are currently hundreds of people mapping on HOTOSM for the
Nepal Earthquake.Every edit counts.
Additional Tutorials and HOTOSM Resources
- For examples of Before and After Earthquake Damage Assessments from
Satellite Imagery
http://unosat-maps.web.cern.ch/unosat-maps/NP/EQ20150425NPL/UNOSAT_Nepal_20150427_v1.pdf
- Guidance for Mapping IDP (Internally Displaced People) Camps in the Nepal
HOTOSM Tasks
http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/Nepal.html
In F,L&T,
Stace Maples
Geospatial Manager
Stanford Geospatial Center
@mapninja
staceymaples@G+Skype: stacey.maples214.641.0920Find GeoData:
https://earthworks.stanford.edu Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
"I have a map of the United States... actual size.
It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
I spent last summer folding it."
-Steven Wright-
From: "Harushi Tetsuka" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 12:51:47 PM
Subject: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project
I am a retired professional with above average computer skills. I have
registered with Open Street and HOT. I am ready to help but I am not
clear on how to receive an assignment. In the meantime, I will try and
get acclimated with the map making program. Please advise.
Harushi Tetsuka
_______________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 18:11:59 -0400
From: Chad Blevins <[email protected]>
To: Pierre Béland <[email protected]>
Cc: Harushi Tetsuka <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project
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Pierre,
I will take care of that now. My plan is to review this with a few folks
today/tomorrow and post a more finalized version tomorrow.
Thanks,
Chad
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Pierre Béland <[email protected]> wrote:
> Stacey,
>
> Important that somebody revise these documents before advertisiing.
>
> http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/Nepal.html
> This Guide should be revised. For IDP, it instruct
> Area feature
> Tent = Yes
>
> Instructions, as indicated in job 1010 are
>
> - *idp:camp_site=spontaneous_camp*
> - *damage:event=nepal_earthquake_2015*
> - *source=DigitalGlobe/Mapbox WV3 27 April 2015*
>
> regard
>
> Pierre
>
> ------------------------------
> *De :* Stacey Maples <[email protected]>
> *À :* Harushi Tetsuka <[email protected]>
> *Cc :* [email protected]
> *Envoyé le :* Mardi 28 avril 2015 17h08
> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project
>
> Apologies for cut and paste, here you go Harushi:
>
> Basic Information for Contributing *RIGHT NOW*
> <http://stanfordgeospatialcenter.github.io/Map4Nepal_Resources/#working-on-openstreetmap-tasks>Working
> on OpenStreetMap Tasks
> General Info on the OSM Humanitarian Mapping effort
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake>:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake
> If you want to contribute IMMEDIATELY to ongoing Humanitarian Mapping
> efforts for Nepal through Humanitarian OpenStreetMap.org, please do the
> following:
> *First* go through the 30 minute training on http://mapgive.state.gov to
> learn the basics of humanitarian mapping using OpenStreetMap.org
> *Then* go to the HOTOSM Task Manager at http://tasks.hotosm.org/ and
> select a job that you feel comfortable contributing to. Read the directions
> carefully for the job, then select one of the squares next to one that is
> marked as complete. This will allow you to pan to the completed square so
> you can see how others are digitizing the features and mimic their work.
> It doesn't matter how long you work, or how many features you digitize.
> There are currently hundreds of people mapping on HOTOSM for the Nepal
> Earthquake.Every edit counts.
>
> <http://stanfordgeospatialcenter.github.io/Map4Nepal_Resources/#additional-tutorials-and-hotosm-resources>Additional
> Tutorials and HOTOSM Resources
>
> - *For examples of Before and After Earthquake Damage Assessments from
> Satellite Imagery*
>
>
>http://unosat-maps.web.cern.ch/unosat-maps/NP/EQ20150425NPL/UNOSAT_Nepal_20150427_v1.pdf
> - *Guidance for Mapping IDP (Internally Displaced People) Camps in the
> Nepal HOTOSM Tasks*
> http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/Nepal.html
>
>
> In F,L&T,
> Stace Maples
> Geospatial Manager
> Stanford Geospatial Center
> @mapninja
> staceymaples@G+
> Skype: stacey.maples
> 214.641.0920
> Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu
> Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
>
> "I have a map of the United States... actual size.
> It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
> I spent last summer folding it."
> -Steven Wright-
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> *From: *"Harushi Tetsuka" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 28, 2015 12:51:47 PM
> *Subject: *[HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project
>
> I am a retired professional with above average computer skills. I have
> registered with Open Street and HOT. I am ready to help but I am not
> clear on how to receive an assignment. In the meantime, I will try and
> get acclimated with the map making program. Please advise.
>
> Harushi Tetsuka
>
> _______________________________________________
> HOT mailing list
> [email protected]
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> HOT mailing list
> [email protected]
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> HOT mailing list
> [email protected]
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
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>
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GeoCenter
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USAID
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 22:25:54 +0000 (UTC)
From: Pierre Béland <[email protected]>
To: Chad Blevins <[email protected]>
Cc: Harushi Tetsuka <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project
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Thanks Chad
Pierre
De : Chad Blevins <[email protected]>
À : Pierre Béland <[email protected]>
Cc : Stace Maples <[email protected]>; Harushi Tetsuka
<[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Envoyé le : Mardi 28 avril 2015 18h11
Objet : Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project
Pierre,
I will take care of that now. My plan is to review this with a few folks
today/tomorrow and post a more finalized version tomorrow.
Thanks,Chad
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Pierre Béland <[email protected]> wrote:
Stacey,
Important that somebody revise these documents before advertisiing.
http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/Nepal.htmlThis Guide should be
revised. For IDP, it instruct
Area feature
Tent = Yes
Instructions, as indicated in job 1010 are
- idp:camp_site=spontaneous_camp
- damage:event=nepal_earthquake_2015
- source=DigitalGlobe/Mapbox WV3 27 April 2015
regard
Pierre
De : Stacey Maples <[email protected]>
À : Harushi Tetsuka <[email protected]>
Cc : [email protected]
Envoyé le : Mardi 28 avril 2015 17h08
Objet : Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project
Apologies for cut and paste, here you go Harushi:
Basic Information for Contributing RIGHT NOW
Working on OpenStreetMap Tasks
General Info on the OSM Humanitarian Mapping
effort:http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquakeIf you want to
contribute IMMEDIATELY to ongoing Humanitarian Mapping efforts for Nepal
through Humanitarian OpenStreetMap.org, please do the following:First go
through the 30 minute training on http://mapgive.state.gov to learn the basics
of humanitarian mapping using OpenStreetMap.orgThen go to the HOTOSM Task
Manager at http://tasks.hotosm.org/ and select a job that you feel comfortable
contributing to. Read the directions carefully for the job, then select one of
the squares next to one that is marked as complete. This will allow you to pan
to the completed square so you can see how others are digitizing the features
and mimic their work.It doesn't matter how long you work, or how many features
you digitize. There are currently hundreds of people mapping on HOTOSM for the
Nepal Earthquake.Every edit counts.
Additional Tutorials and HOTOSM Resources
- For examples of Before and After Earthquake Damage Assessments from
Satellite Imagery
http://unosat-maps.web.cern.ch/unosat-maps/NP/EQ20150425NPL/UNOSAT_Nepal_20150427_v1.pdf
- Guidance for Mapping IDP (Internally Displaced People) Camps in the Nepal
HOTOSM Tasks
http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/Nepal.html
In F,L&T,
Stace Maples
Geospatial Manager
Stanford Geospatial Center
@mapninja
staceymaples@G+Skype: stacey.maples214.641.0920Find GeoData:
https://earthworks.stanford.edu Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
"I have a map of the United States... actual size.
It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
I spent last summer folding it."
-Steven Wright-
From: "Harushi Tetsuka" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 12:51:47 PM
Subject: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project
I am a retired professional with above average computer skills. I have
registered with Open Street and HOT. I am ready to help but I am not
clear on how to receive an assignment. In the meantime, I will try and
get acclimated with the map making program. Please advise.
Harushi Tetsuka
_______________________________________________
HOT mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
_______________________________________________
HOT mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
_______________________________________________
HOT mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
--
Chad BlevinsGeoCenter
U.S. Global Development Lab USAID202-712-0464
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:10:35 -0400
From: Om G <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HOT] Kathmandu camps or incident reporting
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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QR codes can also be easily printed out locally and included on leaflets that
are dropped into an area.
I’m confident people will have cell coverage before some roads are cleared.
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:20:03 -0400
From: Om G <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Ralph,
I believe that you offered the solution within your message.
Can we make it explicit that "New" volunteers are to ONLY work on the White
Tiles ?
I believe most volunteers are capable of following this request, and do have
the best intentions with their involvement.
It would be onerous to create a huge intake process and train people to a level
of proficiency in the middle of a crisis.
But extra hands do make things easier.
So, without an achievement rank that is tied to access, we can ask that the
White Tiles are the only ones new volunteers edit. I think it would also help
to mention that the leadership will identify and promote individuals who
demonstrate proficiency as the project continues.
Om
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:12:21 +0800
From: Danishka Navin <[email protected]>
To: Om G <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HOT] Kathmandu camps or incident reporting
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Is it possible to contact local contributors?
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Om G <[email protected]> wrote:
> QR codes can also be easily printed out locally and included on leaflets
> that are dropped into an area.
>
> I’m confident people will have cell coverage before some roads are cleared.
> _______________________________________________
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> [email protected]
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 03:56:37 +0000
From: William Morris <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [HOT] TomNod integration for the next time around
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Kevin Bullock of DigitalGlobe has graciously shared the results of the
TomNod effort so far, licensed CC 3.0 (with a plan to specifically permit
OSM use):
- map:
https://geosprocket.cartodb.com/viz/bb5ed630-ee1e-11e4-8dca-0e018d66dc29/embed_map
- data: http://mapperdev.tomnod.com/results/
It seems like there might be an opportunity in future activations (or now)
to use this data for:
1.) Planning and prioritization - as we move into damage assessment we're
probably going to be a step behind the TomNod participants; we should be
able to configure tasks that focus on areas with a high concentration of
damage reports and high levels of agreement. (I can't claim origination of
this idea: https://twitter.com/iheartcrowds/status/593170666662146048)
2.) Direct import - this is more dangerous, but there's an opportunity to
directly link TomNod contributions to OSM. High-agreement damaged buildings
seems like a possible starting place.
There are many technical considerations to be ironed out, including the
realtime nature of the TomNod data. It could benefit from a streaming API
of some sort, as well as some form of integration in the task manager. In
the meantime there's this somewhat-awkward url for overlays:
https://cartocdn-ashbu.global.ssl.fastly.net/geosprocket/api/v1/map/9ec70f30baf2a63e797ae341c8965733:1430273972053.4001/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png?map_key=dca6cb71991448200cc2ade26ff013da486a78ca&cache_policy=persist
Hopefully this is an opportunity to minimize effort duplication and
leverage another motivated group of contributors.
-Bill Morris
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:05:23 -0700
From: Eric Gundersen <[email protected]>
To: William Morris <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HOT] TomNod integration for the next time around
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Bill can you share more on this:
> as we move into damage assessment we're probably going to be a step behind
> the TomNod participants;
I don't really understand what TomNod does or why people contribute to a
proprietary platforms like TomNod. Why do think OSM needs a platform like
TomNod and what data do they bring to the table? Again, just trying to
understand the value they bring -- the teams that started TomNod it is wicked
cool and DIgitalGlobe, who bought TomNod, is a huge OSM lover - so lots of love.
-sent from the mobile-
> On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:56 PM, William Morris <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Kevin Bullock of DigitalGlobe has graciously shared the results of the TomNod
> effort so far, licensed CC 3.0 (with a plan to specifically permit OSM use):
> - map:
> https://geosprocket.cartodb.com/viz/bb5ed630-ee1e-11e4-8dca-0e018d66dc29/embed_map
> - data: http://mapperdev.tomnod.com/results/
>
> It seems like there might be an opportunity in future activations (or now) to
> use this data for:
>
> 1.) Planning and prioritization - as we move into damage assessment we're
> probably going to be a step behind the TomNod participants; we should be able
> to configure tasks that focus on areas with a high concentration of damage
> reports and high levels of agreement. (I can't claim origination of this
> idea: https://twitter.com/iheartcrowds/status/593170666662146048)
> 2.) Direct import - this is more dangerous, but there's an opportunity to
> directly link TomNod contributions to OSM. High-agreement damaged buildings
> seems like a possible starting place.
>
> There are many technical considerations to be ironed out, including the
> realtime nature of the TomNod data. It could benefit from a streaming API of
> some sort, as well as some form of integration in the task manager. In the
> meantime there's this somewhat-awkward url for overlays:
>
> https://cartocdn-ashbu.global.ssl.fastly.net/geosprocket/api/v1/map/9ec70f30baf2a63e797ae341c8965733:1430273972053.4001/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png?map_key=dca6cb71991448200cc2ade26ff013da486a78ca&cache_policy=persist
>
> Hopefully this is an opportunity to minimize effort duplication and leverage
> another motivated group of contributors.
>
> -Bill Morris
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> HOT mailing list
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:09:23 +0200
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: "Serge Wroclawski" <[email protected]>, "Rafael Avila Coya"
<[email protected]>
Cc: DWG <[email protected]>, OSM Imports List
<[email protected]>, hot <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HOT] Undiscussed import of village nodes in Nepal
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@Serge: Thanks for the quick reaction in those hectic times.
@Rafael: Thanks for your offer. It would be great if you could give her some
guidance :)
- Arch
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Betreff: Re: [HOT] Undiscussed import of village nodes in Nepal
Datum: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:34:15 +0200
Von: Serge Wroclawski <[email protected]>
An: Rafael Avila Coya <[email protected]>
I have placed a block message on this users's account in the hopes
that she reads it and can reply quickly to the changeset discussions.
If I don't hear back from her soon, I will revert the changesets in
order to minimize the disruption of mapping in Nepal during the
crisis.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/634
- Serge
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Rafael Avila Coya <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi there:
>
> Thanks for informing about this.
>
> I contacted the user who made this import, offering help to do this
> import in a proper way, following strictly the imports guidelines. I am
> completely sure she did the import with good intentions, but it
> obviously cannot be done this way.
>
> I guess that, as soon as she answers, we should revert the changesets.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rafael.
>
> On 28/04/15 19:56, [email protected] wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> I've detected an undiscussed import of village names in Nepal. Please
>> delete it before further damage arises due to this import.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is unclear where this data comes from and if it's copyrighted. Each
>> node is tagged with fixme and note=these locations and village names
>> might not be 100% accurate. It seems that there was no manual validation
>> process. No import account was created for the import. No documentation
>> in the Wiki about the import. All nodes were imported twice times.
>> Unclear if the import took existing village nodes into account.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30581704
>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30581271
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Arch
>>
>>
>>
>> PS: I've also forwarded this mail to imports@ and [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 18:46:17 +0930
From: "Daniel O'Connor" <[email protected]>
To: Eric Gundersen <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HOT] TomNod integration for the next time around
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> I don't really understand what TomNod does
It's a giant slippy map loading newer imagery and asking for simple
tagging. As you scroll it marks tiles as reviewed.
High overlap with the purpose of the tasking manager in building tracing
then updating those with appropriate damage tags; ditto road blocks etc;
but because it has a much simpler task it seems to be easier to use.
Blocked roads certainly would be worthwhile adding in to a variety of
routing solutions - OSM for the roads, TomNod for the obstacles kind of
thing. Ditto updating major buildings in OSM that are heavily
damaged/destroyed.
If the resulting data is licensed CC 3.0; then its
not necessarily proprietary in this instance.
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Eric Gundersen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bill can you share more on this:
> > as we move into damage assessment we're probably going to be a step
> behind the TomNod participants;
>
> I don't really understand what TomNod does or why people contribute to a
> proprietary platforms like TomNod. Why do think OSM needs a platform like
> TomNod and what data do they bring to the table? Again, just trying to
> understand the value they bring -- the teams that started TomNod it is
> wicked cool and DIgitalGlobe, who bought TomNod, is a huge OSM lover - so
> lots of love.
>
>
> -sent from the mobile-
>
> On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:56 PM, William Morris <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Kevin Bullock of DigitalGlobe has graciously shared the results of the
> TomNod effort so far, licensed CC 3.0 (with a plan to specifically permit
> OSM use):
> - map:
> https://geosprocket.cartodb.com/viz/bb5ed630-ee1e-11e4-8dca-0e018d66dc29/embed_map
>
> - data: http://mapperdev.tomnod.com/results/
>
> It seems like there might be an opportunity in future activations (or now)
> to use this data for:
>
> 1.) Planning and prioritization - as we move into damage assessment we're
> probably going to be a step behind the TomNod participants; we should be
> able to configure tasks that focus on areas with a high concentration of
> damage reports and high levels of agreement. (I can't claim origination of
> this idea: https://twitter.com/iheartcrowds/status/593170666662146048)
> 2.) Direct import - this is more dangerous, but there's an opportunity to
> directly link TomNod contributions to OSM. High-agreement damaged buildings
> seems like a possible starting place.
>
> There are many technical considerations to be ironed out, including the
> realtime nature of the TomNod data. It could benefit from a streaming API
> of some sort, as well as some form of integration in the task manager. In
> the meantime there's this somewhat-awkward url for overlays:
>
>
> https://cartocdn-ashbu.global.ssl.fastly.net/geosprocket/api/v1/map/9ec70f30baf2a63e797ae341c8965733:1430273972053.4001/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png?map_key=dca6cb71991448200cc2ade26ff013da486a78ca&cache_policy=persist
>
> Hopefully this is an opportunity to minimize effort duplication and
> leverage another motivated group of contributors.
>
> -Bill Morris
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:24:27 +0800
From: Dilys Ong <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [HOT] Satellite image quality too low for mapping / not
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Hi, I'm completely new to this and currently trying to help mapping in the
Nepal earthquake areas, via mapgive. Using the iD-Editor, the quality of the
satellite images is very low and i can't really make out the features. Please
help!
Dilys
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:39:23 +0100
From: Dan Marsh <[email protected]>
To: Dilys Ong <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HOT] Satellite image quality too low for mapping / not
loading
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Try taking a look at areas already completed. You'll then start to get an
idea of what a small house looks like in a low res image. If it is too
difficult find an easier task.
On 29 Apr 2015 10:26, "Dilys Ong" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, I'm completely new to this and currently trying to help mapping in the
> Nepal earthquake areas, via mapgive. Using the iD-Editor, the quality of
> the satellite images is very low and i can't really make out the features.
> Please help!
>
>
> Dilys
>
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:42:50 +0200
From: Milo van der Linden <[email protected]>
To: Danishka Navin <[email protected]>
Cc: Om G <[email protected]>, hot <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HOT] Kathmandu camps or incident reporting
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Hello Danishka, you can contact the Kathmandu living labs:
http://kathmandulivinglabs.org/ (address and comm info at top of page)
2015-04-29 5:12 GMT+02:00 Danishka Navin <[email protected]>:
> Is it possible to contact local contributors?
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Om G <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> QR codes can also be easily printed out locally and included on leaflets
>> that are dropped into an area.
>>
>> I’m confident people will have cell coverage before some roads are
>> cleared.
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 15:14:47 +0530
From: rubini santha <[email protected]>
To: William Morris <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [HOT] Landslide inventory
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Hi all,
I am sorry if I am sending the message in the wrong thread! Can some one
help me with landslide inventory locations in Nepal.
Thanks!
Dr.Rubini Santha
Geomatics Engineering
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:50:27 +0800
From: Danishka Navin <[email protected]>
To: Milo van der Linden <[email protected]>
Cc: Om G <[email protected]>, hot <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HOT] Kathmandu camps or incident reporting
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Hi Milo,
I already sent a mail. :)
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Milo van der Linden <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hello Danishka, you can contact the Kathmandu living labs:
> http://kathmandulivinglabs.org/ (address and comm info at top of page)
>
>
>
> 2015-04-29 5:12 GMT+02:00 Danishka Navin <[email protected]>:
>
>> Is it possible to contact local contributors?
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Om G <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> QR codes can also be easily printed out locally and included on leaflets
>>> that are dropped into an area.
>>>
>>> I’m confident people will have cell coverage before some roads are
>>> cleared.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> HOT mailing list
>>> [email protected]
>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
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>>
>>
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>> http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com
>> http://twitter.com/danishkanavin
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/danishkanavin/
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> tel: +31-6-16598808
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:45:01 +0200
From: Imre Samu <[email protected]>
To: rubini santha <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HOT] Landslide inventory
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>landslide inventory locations in Nepal.
If I understand you correctly:
You can collect info about "landslide" text from the OpenStreetMap database
http://nepal-taginfo.openstreetmap.hu/search?q=landslide#keys
http://nepal-taginfo.openstreetmap.hu/search?q=landslide#values
And query via overpass-turbo and export to GeoJson
example:
* ( name ~ /landslide$/i ) or (hazard_type=landslide) or
(landuse=landslide) in Nepal*
permalink: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/94J
but you have to check manually every data. ( modification time and other
osm tags )
And you can check synonyms for “landslide”:
http://nepal-taginfo.openstreetmap.hu/search?q=landslip#values
http://nepal-taginfo.openstreetmap.hu/search?q=avalanche#values
Regards,
Imre
2015-04-29 11:44 GMT+02:00 rubini santha <[email protected]>:
> Hi all,
> I am sorry if I am sending the message in the wrong thread! Can some one
> help me with landslide inventory locations in Nepal.
> Thanks!
>
> Dr.Rubini Santha
> Geomatics Engineering
>
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:35:24 +1000
From: Max Bainrot <[email protected]>
Cc: OSM HOT <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HOT] Satellite image quality too low for mapping / not
loading
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I am quite new too (having done only 1 quarter tile before for South Sudan
Ebola crisis and a little bit of mapping in my local area) and I can relate
to your frustration, what further compounds things is the countries
cultures, building style, etc can and often are different to that of where
you live/have experienced
What I do when I have a hard time identifying features is zoom in and out,
usually that helps with the low resolution and sometimes the stitching
obscures things on one zoom level but goes away on a different zoom level
Usually you can see a contrast that forms an X or a line in the center
which is the roof capping and that's a pretty good give away
Another one depending on the imagery is shadows, they give you a really
good idea of what a given structure is and how high it is (thus helping you
decide if its a short wall/hedge or a proper fence)
Also try cycling between different imagery and that can help identify
structures due to different times of day captures, etc
When I was helping out with the Sudan Ebola outbreak I found it a lot
easier to cycle between bing and the other imagery (my memory is bad
sorry), one was quite bright but low res the other was higher res but alot
darker with longer shadows, between the two it helped me identify what
looked like small buildings to be vans as well as highlight buildings that
weren't visible in the other imagery
Another thing that helps you learn is in your editor (I use JOSM, not very
beginner friendly but it's worth it IMHO) is to toggle your DATA layer (the
layer all the polygons are on) that'll make it easier to see whats beneath
other peoples work and help you learn what buildings, carports, outdoor
toilets/wells look like on the sat photos/aeriel photographs
After a short time you'll get to know certain ground features (random dirt
clearings, weird bright reflections, etc) that give away that there is a
structure there/nearby and it'll make things easier.
Cheers,
Max
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