Hi, Claire: On 22/09/15 09:11, Claire Halleux wrote: > Hi Blake, Rafael and Imre, > > Thank you very much for all the good points. > > I was actually thinking of some set of tags like the following: > health_facility:type=office > health_person:type=community (or community_relay or communitary, to be > added to the list)
health_person:type=paramedic looks to be quite what you look for: "places where you can find some people from the community who got a basic training about malaria testing, + sometimes pulmonary infections and children diarrheal diseases diagnostics", as a paramedic is "a health care related person, who got at least enough training to do his work, which is to help in the case of emergencies." What I mean is that, apart from not being in the health_person:type list yet, it's not all the community who provide this first aid, but only some trained people in the community. > health_service:test=yes > disease:malaria=yes (that's the most common one) > temporary=yes (as some are specifically set up for the seasonal malaria > peak) temporary=yes [1][2] is being used only for temporary facilities (like disaster refugee camps, roads in construction, etc.). But in the case of this community health offices, what you mean is not a temporary object, but a "permanent" one that is open only in a season of the year, so that should go in opening_hours As Sud-Kivu rainy season (malaria peak) goes from November to March (if I am not mistaken), the tag could be something like: opening_hours=Jan-Mar, Nov-Dec: sunrise-sunset If they close on Sunday for example, you can make it: opening_hours=Jan-Mar, Nov-Dec: Mo-Sa sunrise-sunset I know that talking about opening hours in a small village in deep RDC is almost a joke, anyway. But I think temporary=* is a wrong tag here. I agree with the rest of tags you propose that I didn't comment. Cheers, and have a nice week, Rafael. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/temporary [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Background > > I don't feel comfortable with tagging the building as hospital or adding > amenity=doctors while this is what is used for proper health centers > (even if I'd like it better to see those services also rendered).In the > case described here, there are no doctors, not even nurses in those > places and yet this is normal (it's not the case of a health center > which should have doctors despite not having any). > > Best, > > Claire > > Claire Halleux > +243 81 611 6998 (Kinshasa, DRC) > OpenStreetMap RDC > Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team > > https://www.facebook.com/OpenStreetMap.RDC > http://www.hotosm.org/ > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Rafael Avila Coya <ravilac...@gmail.com > <mailto:ravilac...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi, Imre: > > Yeah, after sending the email I remembered that. > > staff_count:nurses=* might be ok. Alternatively, we could use > staff_count:paramedics=* or staff_count:therapists=* > > Another thing that I remembered and didn't say in my email: > > I would tag with a node over the facility. Facility building/s should be > tagged as building=hospital (I always thing that a building=health tag > or similar would be better...). > > Cheers, > > Rafael. > > On 21/09/15 15:40, Imre Samu wrote: > > Hi Rafael, > > > > I will also add 2 more keys * * ( according to your documentation [2] > > and data [1] ) > > - *staff_count:doctors=0 *( with the key: amenity=doctors ... > this > > is a good indicator ) > > *- staff_count:nurses=1 * ( 0...n ; number of health > trained people ) > > > > [1] overpass query: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/bzt ( > > medical_system:western=* ) > > example node: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3458635952 > > [2] > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Nigeria_eHealth_Borno_Health_Facilities#Tagging_Plans > > > > Cheers, > > Imre > > > > > > 2015-09-21 14:13 GMT+02:00 Rafael Avila Coya <ravilac...@gmail.com > <mailto:ravilac...@gmail.com> > > <mailto:ravilac...@gmail.com <mailto:ravilac...@gmail.com>>>: > > > > Hi, Claire: > > > > I had to deal with this already for a eHealth-collected health > > facilities import in Borno State, Nigeria [1]. I used the > HealthCare2.0 > > tagging schema (as Blake is also suggesting too), adding some > > traditional tags for rendering purposes. > > > > For this kind of facilities, I would suggest the following: > > > > For all facilities: > > > > 1. medical_system:western=yes > > > > 2. health_facility:type=office > > 3. office=paramedic OR office=therapist > > > > 4. health_specialty:paediatric_gastroenterology=partial/no > #For children > > diarrheal diseases > > 5. health_specialty:tropical_medicine=partial/no #Malaria and > others > > 6. health_specialty:pulmonology=partial/no #For pulmonar diseases > > > > 7. amenity=doctors #This is for compatibility with traditional > health > > care tagging > > > > I would also add to all of them: > > > > 8. power_supply=yes/no/unknown #It might be interesting to know if > > electricity is available. > > > > Only in case health_specialty:tropical_medicine=partial, add: > > > > 9. disease:malaria=yes > > > > You might add diarrhea diseases too, like > > disease:amoebic_dysentery=yes/no , etc., always in case > > health_specialty:paediatric_gastroenterology=partial > > > > Other optional tags: > > > > 10. opening_hours=* > > 11. operator=* > > 12. operator:type=public/private/... > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rafael. > > > > [1] > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Nigeria_eHealth_Borno_Health_Facilities#Tagging_Plans > > > > On 21/09/15 12:45, Blake Girardot wrote: > > > Hi Claire, > > > > > > It is a bit long and kind of complicated, but do you think a > > combination > > > of the healthcare 2.0 proposal could address the facilities? > > > > > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Healthcare_2.0 > > > > > > It does say part of its goal was to deal with community based > > services. > > > > > > Maybe we need to add some possible values to the existing > proposal. > > > > > > Lets get this sorted out. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Blake > > > > > > > > > On 9/21/2015 9:52 AM, Claire Halleux wrote: > > >> (English below) > > >> > > >> Bonjour à tous, > > >> Au Sud-Kivu, on rencontre régulièrement des "sites de soins > > >> communautaires", c'est à dire des lieux où l'on peut > s'adresser à des > > >> relais communautaires (membres de la communauté) ayant reçu une > > >> formation spécifique au diagnostic du palu en général mais > > parfois aussi > > >> pour les infections respiratoires et les diarrhées des > enfants. Ils > > >> disposent généralement de médicaments, fournis par des > organisations > > >> médicales. . > > >> Ce service est très utile en particulier dans les zones > rurales ne > > >> disposant pas de centre de santé. Cependant, les relais > > communautaires > > >> n'étant pas des docteurs, je me retrouve actuellement face à la > > >> difficulté de trouver les tags appropriés. Des idées ou > tags à me > > >> suggérer? Merci d'avance. > > >> > > >> Hi everyone, > > >> In South Kivu, we regularly meet "community-based > healthcare sites", > > >> i.e. places where you can find some people from the > community who > > got a > > >> basic training about malaria testing, + sometimes pulmonary > > infections > > >> and children diarrheal diseases diagnostics. They are usually > > supplied > > >> with medicines by medical organisations. > > >> This service is quite useful as it helps treating patients > (specially > > >> children) closer to the place they live, in particular in > rural areas > > >> where you can't find any health center or doctor. > > >> I'm currently facing the issue of tagging this kind of > place. 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